I'm really perplexed as to how this spot-on, boiled down, brass-tacks post just got ignored!!??? This is really what union issues come down to at the moment.

 

Then what was your purpose of quoting me calling out the internet troll?

If you care to read the first post in this thread you can learn why I'm trying to recall three people who are NOT representing my block, or my council. In fact, they are actively and intentionally ignoring the membership, and supporting a change to our retirement plans that the membership DOES NOT WANT. If they don't want to actually represent the members, then they must be replaced by representatives who will.

If you want pancakes, vote against the recall. It's really just that simple.






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It really is.






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Let’s not forget that the current Block 5 rep is not even a member of Block 5 or LEC 22. If you are a member of LEC 22, is he representing your interests?

 

This happens often in our Block Representative System. All FedEx pilots (seniority holding), annually have their seniority number adjusted as there are terminations(retirements usually). A Candidate, must be in the seniority block that they are running for. They serve a two year term and many will move out of the Block due to the annual re-alignment. After that, they are no longer eligible to run or remain in that seniority block.

This is not an issue for the outer domiciles and Seniority Block 11- all members in those blocks regardless of seniority number and may hold that Local Council seat, assuming they get re-elected.

There doesn’t need to be any reason at all to “recall” a sitting rep, there only needs to be a resolution, a mover a seconder and a majority vote. It doesn’t prevent bad actors from submitting bad reasons, good reasons, or no reason at all.

Hypothetically, you could argue a block rep no longer represents your interests because of an adjustment to his seniority- but for most people listening to that argument, it would seem you would need to convince the sitting Members how exactly that’s occurring, as opposed to making a statement without supporting facts.

Hypothetically, you could add that a Block Rep is also not supporting your desires by the nature of a faulty argument without supporting facts. Again, it would seem that anyone attempting to recall sitting reps on the MEC would have to bring forth substantive facts and or records as they have the onus to justify such removal. Political expediency is a dead horse.

A duly elected representative is by majority vote, the voice of the pilots they represent. From my experience, the majority of them take that obligation seriously and contemplate thoughtfully on all issues before them, even when it doesn’t comport with their personal best interests.

A recall effort attempts to undermine all previous votes in favor of the elected, thereby neutering the constituency with a simple majority of those present.

That is not a zero sum game and entails risk.

 

Are my facts correct from looking through previous post that this TonyC poster is behind this entire council recall? Is this same TonyC character also running for one of the upcoming vacant Officer seats? If so, may god help us all.

Can you imagine trying to lead a group in which you just attempted to recall 1/5 of its elected members? Is TonyC a management plant sent to divide this pilot group during negotiations? I think he may also have some help from a few other notorious posters and this web forum. Are these few characters Fred’s chosen men, sent to divide?

What is the recall based upon? From reading TonyC’s original post regarding the recall it appears its over nothing. Over his belief that they may feel differently on a subject than he may. Am I understanding this shared correctly?

 

“ Are my facts correct ”…..if it’s a fact, why are you questioning it? Oh, maybe because it’s not a fact.

I like hearing different views/opinions but you sir have been proven false so many times I am really questioning if you are actually a line pilot here.

Weird how you popped up right after that one troll disappeared. Must suck to suck.

 

Shucks, you caught me. I tried to hide it by only mentioning it in the first post of a thread I started -- THIS thread, in fact -- and by posting the entire text of the Resolution I would propose if and when they ever decide to hold a Local Council meeting. That was very clever of you to find it. You should probably be a detective.


Whew. At least there's a scintilla of mystery remaining. Well, except it's explained thoroughly in the resolution. I've been saved by your short attention span.




No. Sadly, you're incapable of such a feat.






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He is not a FedEx pilot - just block him already.

 

Unless there has been a change, the people present don't recall the reps, they simply vote whether they are in favor of the resolution or not. Then the recall is sent to the entire membership of the LEC. So how is that neutering the constituency? Maybe the reps are the ones doing the neutering by not communicating with their constituents.

You and your ilk like to say "let the process play out and then vote and the majority will decide" until you don't like the process any more.