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Old 09-03-2021 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Just because someone sues doesn't really mean anything. ACB refused to hear it as recently as June. The bottom line is that if someone is suing then it will get thrown out of court. Here's ALPA's legal summary on the matter for you. As many doctors as we've got around here I'm betting we have just as many lawyers though... http://fdx.alpa.org/portals/26/docs/...%208-16-21.pdf

I believe ACB only refuse to hear it before it works it way up the normal way. The suit is still in the courts. I’m not saying it’s going to be successfully, chances are it’s not. I’m just saying that we haven’t heard the last word on it. Unless you can provide a link that shows the trial court and appeals court have adjudicated it?
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Old 09-03-2021 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
I believe ACB only refuse to hear it before it works it way up the normal way. The suit is still in the courts. I’m not saying it’s going to be successfully, chances are it’s not. I’m just saying that we haven’t heard the last word on it. Unless you can provide a link that shows the trial court and appeals court have adjudicated it?
I'm reading this article as the suit that the students filed is dead but they'll continue filing (frivolous) suits in an attempt to end the mandate on different grounds. It's 100% true that the courts have spoken on the matter. If our pilots due the same they'll be wasting their money and possibly costing themselves their jobs. https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/polit...ate/index.html
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Old 09-03-2021 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
I'm reading this article as the suit that the students filed is dead but they'll continue filing (frivolous) suits in an attempt to end the mandate on different grounds. It's 100% true that the courts have spoken on the matter. If our pilots due the same they'll be wasting their money and possibly costing themselves their jobs. https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/polit...ate/index.html

It doesn’t surprise me that your particular source left out facts. ACB merely denied an emergency injunction. The case now has to proceed in the lower courts with plaintiffs arguing on the merits while the mandate is in effect. Like I said, it’s probably going to fail seeing as the injunction was not allowed but it’s certainly not a dead issue. And therefore the courts still have a say in it.

https://www.jurist.org/news/2021/08/...ccine-mandate/

To be clear, current case law allows these mandates, unless something changes that. I’m not trying to say otherwise. I was just trying to point out that the current case is still alive.
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Old 09-05-2021 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
I’m referring to leadership, the Fauci’s, if you will. The flattened curve no longer seems to matter anymore, evidence by their lack of mentioning it.
I’m sure the “leadership” also understands that the remaining unvaccinated folks are predominantly those that won’t care about anything they say. Vaccination is the best way to flatten the curve as it curbs hospitalization more than any other factor. Why waste time trying to squeeze blood from a turnip?
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Old 09-06-2021 | 07:10 AM
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Nailed it. I'm surprised that the non-specific PCR test decertification did not get more widespread traction.

It can be argued that this entire psychological operation hinged on the high cycle threshold thus leading to false positives, which leads to innacurate death data (with vs from).

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Old 09-06-2021 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by urinmyseat
Dr. Fauci wrote a paper after a study was conducted by the NIH in the mid-'90s, that stated that masks could not stop the spread of SARS-Covid type viruses. If you remember he stated this at the beginning of the pandemic, and he cited his own work on it as proof. Then something magical happened where paper masks could now stop the spread of a virus that is nearly 100 microns smaller than the filtration capacity of the masks. In the paper he wrote, it was stated that the biggest danger from masks comes from the virus being aerosolized by the mask. The droplets do not pass on the infection through the skin, but the vapor inhaled into the lungs or introduced to the eyes does. That is why over 70% of all covid cases occur to people who always wear masks and are always with people who wear them. Those people prove Fauci's research is accurate.



The reason the flu numbers are down is because of the decisions made by the CDC on how to interpret test results. The most common form of testing that we've used since the onset, can not differentiate between Covid, Flu, or the common cold. It only proves that you have one of a few various types of coronavirus or other viruses, but not necessarily covid. The CDC determined that all positive tests would be treated as a positive for covid. They announced in early August that this form of testing would be outlawed by Dec 31, 2021. The CDC is requiring a new test that can differentiate between covid and the other viruses by that date. That is the reason no one got the flu because all positive tests were registered as covid. Have you ever wondered how some folks test positive while not having any covid symptoms, or they say it felt like a cold? Well, it might have been a cold, or one of the other viruses that could cause the test to show positive.



We might as well all wear tinfoil hats along with the masks, as they are about as scientifically beneficial to stopping the spread as the masks are.
Nailed it. I'm surprised that the non-specific PCR test decertification did not get more widespread traction.

It can be argued that this entire psychological operation hinged on the high cycle threshold thus leading to false positives, which leads to innacurate death data (with vs from).

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Old 09-06-2021 | 10:29 AM
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I have no idea what the company is planning regarding the vaccine and so can't speculate. I will add that personally, I will never need the vaccine. I have over a 99% chance of survival from this virus. Most of the crew force has a 99% of survival. My natural immunity is top notch. Most everyone else who I fly with has, in general, excellent health habits. Subtracting the nights everyone lets loose and ordering too much catering. 99% chance is better than walking across a golf course holding a nine iron above your head during a thunderstorm and not being struck by lightning.

The CDC has already admitted they "fibbed" about the PCR test. The CDC has also admitted that the death number that is stated on their website is 95% false. What I mean is that 95% of the death number had preexisting comorbidities, i.e., they were sick already.

The vaccines are already showing signs of efficiency loss, to say the least. The flu vaccine has an efficiency of 38% from 2004 to the present. I seriously doubt that this vaccine, created in six months and still experimental, has a higher efficiency. You already see the push for booster shots coming. Probably every 5 months for the rest of your life. Boy, does that sound enjoyable. These vaccines were also created by companies that were handed the largest criminal fine in history, at the time, $2.3 Billion. I would say that believing that getting the vaccine will somehow solve all or most of your problems is extremely naïve.

This whole affair for the past year and a half has been a shxx show. The facts, while very interesting most of the time, are irrelevant lately. Some people run around like chickens with their heads cut off slinging stuff at everyone within a certain radius. I seriously hope and pray that individuals in our crew force don't start having any type of health issues over the next couple years. I don't need a doctor to tell me anything about the vaccine. All I had to do was read the list of side effects. Over 100, btw. Most doctors have no idea what the VAERS website is even about. The vaccine adverse event reporting. More reactions from these vaccines in the last year than from all vaccines combined. Yikes.

The Australian politician lately is a classic. He took the vaccine to prove its effectiveness and developed Bells Palsy on live tv. He then went in for the second shot with an eye patch. Think Australian pirate.
What other fashion accessory can he add after this second dose?
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Old 09-07-2021 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
I’m sure the “leadership” also understands that the remaining unvaccinated folks are predominantly those that won’t care about anything they say. Vaccination is the best way to flatten the curve as it curbs hospitalization more than any other factor. Why waste time trying to squeeze blood from a turnip?

I agree and it’s been flattened, thanks to the vaccine. Yet we still have mask mandates. There will always be people who won’t get the COVID vaccine. So unless we want to be an authoritative or fascistic or dictatorial, we will have to suffice with the current flattening of the curve.
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Old 09-08-2021 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
I agree and it’s been flattened, thanks to the vaccine. Yet we still have mask mandates. There will always be people who won’t get the COVID vaccine. So unless we want to be an authoritative or fascistic or dictatorial, we will have to suffice with the current flattening of the curve.
Hey Lax,
Boy, it sure is serious business around here with that oh so sweet air of moral superiority.
Maybe we should talk about the latest Ben and Jerry flavors or something. Here I'll start,

Salty tears, Holy cannoli your dead, Tennessee Mud spike protein, This is Nuts booster shot, Fears and Cheers fudge tracks, Natural Immunity Nutello, Ivermectin Ice cream sandwich and my favorite, Self Righteous Magnum crunch.

Hopefully none of these flavors end up in the Ben and Jerry's Flavor Graveyard too soon.

I know, I'm poking a rattle snake with a stick. But hey, if your stick is long enough it's pretty fun sometimes.
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Old 09-08-2021 | 09:42 AM
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"I will never need the vaccine. I have over a 99% chance of survival from this virus."

My wife's hospital has five children on ventilators right now. UAB Children's, Birmingham Alabama.

I bet some of the five were infected by people who said the same thing.
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