Our MEC has agreed to let the company force vaccines on us already. This is a moot point to argue, the MEC has failed already, you will see in January.
Our MEC has given up our vacation to the company.
Our MEC has given up our A-plan to the company.
Our MEC gave up our right to bring a lawsuit to the company. We never could strike but at one time we were able to bring a lawsuit.
Our MEC gave our contract negotiations to ALPA and signed documents to not talk about it to US, the members.
Our MEC has sold us out. If you have balls you will join the lawsuit. Shout out to the four last round who did have the balls and exposed the MEC.
Call me whatever you like but when this starts happening in January and the MEC blames the company and say "it snuck in," means they were paid off and asleep at the desk.

 

Do you think that ALPA can really stop the company from mandating the vaccine or putting it into the employee handbook or whatever other way they want to put it in writing? I’m not trying to debate whether or not it should be done. But do you really think ALPA can stop them from requiring it?

I still don’t think the company will have to require it. When other countries do, it will become a de facto “company” requirement. and don’t read that as Asia or Europe. Think Canada. I dunno. I’m just a pilot.

 

Oh man I hope they really do mandate the vaccine! Best news I’ve heard all day!

 

I'm gonna plus one some other comments... First off I believe it'd be better for everyone if we had 100% vaccination. We'd see less sick calls that exhaust the vaccinated pilots on reserve. Meanwhile the unvaccinated pilots at this point are being given unlimited free vacations. The company could also move more cargo with more healthy pilots. We'd see less breakthrough infections where the vaccinated pilots are forced to expose their families unnecessarily. Health care costs would be less for vaccinated pilot with a 100% rate and we all know that yall are going to complain to heck and back if you're forced to pay for the statistical risk for your "Personal Decisions". Second it will be required by foreign countries eventually. This is point, set, match for any antivax arguments with respect to our jobs. We must operate in and out of these countries regardless of what the antivax pilots have read online. Third the company can legally require it as determined by SCOTUS. Why waste resources fighting something we have no legal basis to fight?

So there's a sizeable percentage of us that believe it's in our best interests to have everyone vaccinated and don't want to waste resources fighting it.

 

My kids are too young to vaccinate. The oldest is 5 and in Kindergarten. Sure she probably wouldn't die but I really don't want her missing two weeks (or more) of school and falling behind. There are more issues with Covid than just death.

 

It’s very odd to me that some claim this as some kind of argument.

A vaccinated person is significantly less likely to be infected compared to an unvaccinated individual. There’s no question about that.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-Delta-variant

So while an infected vaccinated person may spread COVID as much as an unvaccinated person, the vaccinated individual is far less likely to ever catch it in the first place.

Finally, the notion that most of our crew force is in amazing physical shape is laughable. Just because some of you were in shape during your years of active service, doesn’t mean you’re still in shape when you’re 50+ years old, sleep deprived, drinking excessively, and eating all the desserts in catering. I’ve flown with tons of guys that fall in that last category.

 

If we all get vaccinated and comply they will let us get back to normal and stop covering it on tv 24 hrs a day. Thats the only way to get back to normal.

 

That did not happen, quit repeating your Facebook talking points here.

https://www.aap.com.au/politicians-b...lse-diagnosis/

 

Lmao you really believe the debunkers still? You ever look into anything yourself?

Your article says there is no link between Bell's Palsy and the vaccines. This is an outright lie. This isn't an uncommon reaction in vaccines like this.

 

Prove it. Just flapping your gums doesn’t make it true.

Unless you are getting the Chinese SinoVac, there’s no statistical evidence of your statement:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...467-9/fulltext