Vaccine Stance
#21
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
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#22
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 247
If your fleet flies to a destination country that requires the vaccine then I believe that it’ll be required for that fleet. It would make it hard on the operation having 2 groups of pilots, one that can fly to all destinations and one that cannot. If we go the route of having separate groups then they’ll have to hire more and they don’t want that.
Another option is you’ll be removed from the trip without pay, because it’s your choice whether to get vaccinated, so your choice made you ineligible to fly it. That’s not their problem, so no pay for you.
They’ll mandate it to avoid all that mess.
Another option is you’ll be removed from the trip without pay, because it’s your choice whether to get vaccinated, so your choice made you ineligible to fly it. That’s not their problem, so no pay for you.
They’ll mandate it to avoid all that mess.
#23
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 152
If your fleet flies to a destination country that requires the vaccine then I believe that it’ll be required for that fleet. It would make it hard on the operation having 2 groups of pilots, one that can fly to all destinations and one that cannot. If we go the route of having separate groups then they’ll have to hire more and they don’t want that.
Another option is you’ll be removed from the trip without pay, because it’s your choice whether to get vaccinated, so your choice made you ineligible to fly it. That’s not their problem, so no pay for you.
They’ll mandate it to avoid all that mess.
Another option is you’ll be removed from the trip without pay, because it’s your choice whether to get vaccinated, so your choice made you ineligible to fly it. That’s not their problem, so no pay for you.
They’ll mandate it to avoid all that mess.
It's amazing to me how much some pilots are willing to throw other pilots under the bus. Stop trying to justify mandates where there is no need.
#24
China Visa Applicant
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Midfield downwind
Posts: 1,919
You mean like how some of us have been covering for people that don't have a China visa for the last 15 months? Or how we've been covering for people that have a CPAP and can't go to Australia?
It's amazing to me how much some pilots are willing to throw other pilots under the bus. Stop trying to justify mandates where there is no need.
It's amazing to me how much some pilots are willing to throw other pilots under the bus. Stop trying to justify mandates where there is no need.
#25
What about those who have had Covid and recovered? Many countries accept that in lue of vaccination status. It appears to be an argument between being vax’ed and unvax’ed, with zero consideration to those that have had it. What say you ALPA?
#27
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 795
We have a group of pilots who have made no attempt to get a China visa and internationally bid trips with China layovers. Works out nicely for them, screws their buddy though.
#28
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 152
I'll also add that even in the case of the pilots that have chosen to not get a China visa, I don't blame them! Just like I don't blame pilots that do or do not get COVID tested. Personal choice is important, but it's become very popular lately to steamroll our colleagues into compliance.
#29
I'll also add that even in the case of the pilots that have chosen to not get a China visa, I don't blame them! Just like I don't blame pilots that do or do not get COVID tested. Personal choice is important, but it's become very popular lately to steamroll our colleagues into compliance.
#30
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,236
If everyone accepts that then the company will probably accept it. The doctors I've spoken with say natural immunity lasts for 3-6 months, so part of this would also depend on what the company's medical experts AND the host nation's medical experts say. I get it that you'll probably throw out some argument of what you read online somewhere that fits the narrative you want, but what will really matter is what the host nation says. More than likely it'll be much easier to track a current vaccination status than sifting through everyone's medical records from 300 different countries to determine natural immunity as defined by the host country's medical experts. It's highly likely they'll just require proof of vaccination... When that happens you either have it and are useful as a pilot or you can't fly to those countries and are worthless to FedEx.
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