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Old 08-25-2021, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard View Post
This needs to go to the Covid 19 thread so that all the same old arguments can happen there.

Bottom line is that we are very likely going to be flying to places that require it. Their country, their rules.

When that happens it will ultimately force the company's hand.
Personally I think that's the company's exact strategy. Why make themselves out to be the bad guys when they can just let other countries do it?
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Old 08-25-2021, 05:59 PM
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My nightmare is that the company is offered a choice by countries - use 100% vaccinated pilots or continue the hotel quarantines. ALPA has already come out against vaccine mandates.

Guess we better get used to the ICN Hyatt.....Hey it won't affect the domestic guys, so.....
Why would they continue to waste their resources baby sitting yall when they could just require the vaccine? Just check it with your passport when you enter the country. Done. Ultimately that's coming. I think the Delta insurance thing is gonna happen here too, but who knows...
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Old 08-26-2021, 05:28 AM
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Have a bid to move around.
If you don't want to get vaccinated, bid an airplane where you can do all of your flying domestic.
If you want to fly International, get vaccinated.
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Old 08-26-2021, 06:23 AM
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JNJ. Not sure about high dose.

I don’t think fdx will require it, (hoping not), reason….I think lawyers run the show here, and unless they are 100% positive there’s no risk to the company, they don’t want to take that on.

Also, they don’t require flu shots, yellow fever, etc…so why require this?
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
Why would they continue to waste their resources baby sitting yall when they could just require the vaccine? Just check it with your passport when you enter the country. Done. Ultimately that's coming. I think the Delta insurance thing is gonna happen here too, but who knows...
Hey I was hopeful also and was flying with a smart x Coastie and he disagreed with me thinking the same as you. I said cool tell me why and he said basically “there is simply no benefit to them and it’s a risk for them”. He said why would they risk letting us who travel across the world daily reintroduce infections. I saw his point but was skeptical until Australia made a huge deal about a infection a couple of months ago by our aircrews.

I think it will end up being a mishmash with Europe being mostly if not all open and ASIA mostly closed as it seems many of those countries have dug in!
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JNJ. Not sure about high dose.

I don’t think fdx will require it, (hoping not), reason….I think lawyers run the show here, and unless they are 100% positive there’s no risk to the company, they don’t want to take that on.

Also, they don’t require flu shots, yellow fever, etc…so why require this?
If the lawyers get ahold of it you can bet there will be a mandatory vaccine at FedEx. It's cut and dry that they can force you and they might be legally exposed for somehow creating an unsafe work environment at some point for allowing it. I'm not saying it happens but I promise you that if it was a decision from legal's standpoint there's no downside to forcing everyone.
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Originally Posted by HIFLYR View Post
Hey I was hopeful also and was flying with a smart x Coastie and he disagreed with me thinking the same as you. I said cool tell me why and he said basically “there is simply no benefit to them and it’s a risk for them”. He said why would they risk letting us who travel across the world daily reintroduce infections. I saw his point but was skeptical until Australia made a huge deal about a infection a couple of months ago by our aircrews.

I think it will end up being a mishmash with Europe being mostly if not all open and ASIA mostly closed as it seems many of those countries have dug in!
I think that enough countries will mandate it globally that on the 777 you'll be forced to take it. Anyone Junior in their seat will probably be forced as well because I'm sure Canada will require it. Maybe the union can swing a deal where you can drop Canada without pay if you're tapped for it. With the company being short on pilots that might not be acceptable to them though... We'll see... It's going to be changing daily now.
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If the lawyers get ahold of it you can bet there will be a mandatory vaccine at FedEx. It's cut and dry that they can force you and they might be legally exposed for somehow creating an unsafe work environment at some point for allowing it. I'm not saying it happens but I promise you that if it was a decision from legal's standpoint there's no downside to forcing everyone.
Lots of AFLCIO lawsuits should be coming if any company requires a vac. I'm surprised it hasn't happened. Yet. Get the vac, don't get the vac, personal choice. Sadly our lives are now being controlled by hysteria. Whats the next pandemic?
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How many ramp workers would quit if there is a vaccine mandate? That will inform their decision.
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Lots of AFLCIO lawsuits should be coming if any company requires a vac. I'm surprised it hasn't happened. Yet. Get the vac, don't get the vac, personal choice. Sadly our lives are now being controlled by hysteria. Whats the next pandemic?
They'd better not be spending our money on that because it will lose in court. Here's a summary from ALPA on what SCOTUS says on the matter... http://fdx.alpa.org/portals/26/docs/...%208-16-21.pdf
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