urinmyseat

So if you're vaccinated, you should be safe, correct? What does it matter if I'm not vaccinated? If you're vaccinated and you are not safe from the unvaccinated, what was the point of getting vaccinated? I'm vaccinated against polio, and it doesn't matter to me if you aren't. They stopped vaccinating Americans for polio in 2000, out of fear of vaccine-derived outbreaks, think "Delta variant" of polio. The point being, if you are vaccinated, what do you care if others aren't? We don't check those that come across the border illegally if they are vaccinated for or carry polio, nor covid, so the risk must be low.


Not all the ATP's on here had flying as a first career. There may be a few that studied a little biology in previous times. As pilots, we are expected to interpret all the data presented to us, before we make a decision. Then we use our experience, knowledge of the rules, and that rarest of commodities, common sense to make a decision...except for covid...don't look at anything, shut up, and color.

FXLAX

I think this is the point you were trying to make.

If one leaves any cancer untreated, one won’t get natural immunity from it and 100% will die from it. If one leaves COVID untreated, 99% don’t die and one will receive natural immunity from it.

Temocil27

The point of getting vaccinated against Covid is to reduce the probability of hospitalization and death. If you get covid and require hospitalization, you are effectively taking resources away from people that need to go to the hospital for other reasons (heart attack, car accident, stroke, etc.). That about sums it up. I wish the company would go ahead and require it. The people that are so vocally against it are so very often the looneys id rather not share a beer with, anyway.

acecrackshot

The problem with this reasonable argument is that we've never taken this position before, and remember when AIDS was a both a death sentence and within certain communities, highly transmissible.

Second, there is a serious trust deficit between those mandating the vaccine and those upon the mandate falls, and the strong arm tactics (threatening employment, withholding medical care, etc.) are frankly distasteful at best, and incompatible with a free society.

I say this as a vaccine early adopter well before any mandates, for my personal reasons. Ultimately, the government has been less than forthright on their response to the virus, what they know when they knew it, etc. since day one, and that's a function outside of who is/was President. For that same body to now ask 300 million Americans to just hit the "I believe" button using all sorts of strong arm tactics, a compliant press who has been agenda driven from the start (to include knowingly publishing/broadcasting false and/or misleading information, with next to no retraction) and every power of the federal government (after the President less than 8 months ago said no mandate would be necessary) is asking alot.

There is a reason why we read the story "the boy who cried wolf" to kids. It has relevance.

Fr8Master

Maybe FedEx will do what Delta is doing and charge a premium to those who aren’t vaccinated. I’d love to listen to those complaints!

long story short, right now people have the right to choose if they are vaccinated or not! Their employers can choose to require it! If their employers require it the employee can get it or they can quit. Nobody is holding anyone down and forcing a vaccine in them.

If you don’t like it vote with your feet. Go start your own cargo operation and advertise no vaccines required since they don’t work. Also, no sick days because only medically superior specimens will work for you.

Get off the internet and talk to the doctors you have been going to for years for advice. If you watch YouTube and end up at Tractor Supply to treat or prevent Covid, you’re doing something wrong. Everyone knows the only pet supplies that help people are fresh water fish flake food. If you’re having a heart attack, put two shakes of fish food under your tongue and it clears all blockages. Additionally if you are having excess gas or IBS, carrots for pet rabbits can be used as a suppository to clear symptoms within 15 minutes of insertion. You’re welcome.

Red Letter

Perhaps the longer you are exposed to propaganda, brainwashing and indoctrination (e.g. institutions of “higher learning”) the more likely you are to believe the latest “safe and effective” marketing slogan. Do a research paper on that marketing term and/or the actual safety of the jab (not really a vaccine); you might be surprised by what you learn. The AMA, FDA, NIH and the MSM are highly influenced by big Pharma $$.

hoya saxa

Hahaha, that’s awesome. Tractor Supply - love it!


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FXLAX

That’s what flattening the curve was precisely about. But that was abandoned a long time ago. No one talks about curves or the flattening of them anymore. Why do you think that is?

HvypurplePylot

Because it's so out of control now and they know the south will never be responsible enough to lock things down to help contain this.

Meat Fighter

Just to clarify.

We have a shot that....

Doesn't prevent transmission.

Doesn't prevent getting COVID.

Doesn't inoculate against the virus.

Need to get a new one every 5 months.

Has no long term safety profile.

And is labeled as the exit metric for this modern rendition of 1984???

***But if you take vitamins, supplement your own immune system, live a healthy life, and take an early treatment protocol for a virus you have a 99.997 chance of surviving you're labeled by the government as a selfish lunatic.

This isn't about science or medicine, this is cultish behavior.






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