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Old 10-01-2021 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
anti-vaxxers like yourself
Gotta love the ad hominem name calling; clearly well thought logic and reason based discussion.
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Old 10-01-2021 | 01:01 PM
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Shanna, they didn’t want the vaccine, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em die.

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Old 10-12-2021 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
I’d take a bet that these same people, had future access to gene therapy to cure their cancer, they’d jump on it. The hucksters in the media will be quite silent on that.

A person with a terminal cancer diagnosis faces a vastly different scenario than COVID-19 with a 99.7 overall survival rate.

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Old 10-12-2021 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Temocil27
The point of getting vaccinated against Covid is to reduce the probability of hospitalization and death. If you get covid and require hospitalization, you are effectively taking resources away from people that need to go to the hospital for other reasons (heart attack, car accident, stroke, etc.). That about sums it up. I wish the company would go ahead and require it. The people that are so vocally against it are so very often the looneys id rather not share a beer with, anyway.

Hospital bed and ICU bed utilization by COVID patients. Select state, city, radius, whatever you want. This is the HHS.gov website. Facts matter.

https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages...al-utilization
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Old 10-12-2021 | 02:41 AM
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The MSM thrives on fear and sensationalism. That maybe we can all agree on. They also know most Americans are too lazy to do their own research and rely on the MSM to spoon feed them in easily digested ADD small bites. So where is the story on these annoying facts? COVID cases and deaths are plummeting. But please don’t believe me. Go to the CDC website and look for yourself. Select the chart for cases by sex and the chart for deaths by sex. Cases are down near baseline.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...aphicsovertime
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Old 10-12-2021 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by machz990
The MSM thrives on fear and sensationalism. That maybe we can all agree on. They also know most Americans are too lazy to do their own research and rely on the MSM to spoon feed them in easily digested ADD small bites. So where is the story on these annoying facts? COVID cases and deaths are plummeting. But please don’t believe me. Go to the CDC website and look for yourself. Select the chart for cases by sex and the chart for deaths by sex. Cases are down near baseline.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...aphicsovertime

To be fair, the rates were near baseline a year ago as well. Then they skyrocketed during the winter.
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Old 10-12-2021 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BluePAX
To be fair, the rates were near baseline a year ago as well. Then they skyrocketed during the winter.

Each of the major spikes has been a new variant. There hasn’t been any significant news of another variant that has gained any traction. You only have to look at some of the European countries who are a couple months ahead of us to see the Delta variant has significantly waned. There will likely be localized spikes in some regions of the country but the big news that occurred in the southern states with the Delta variant is over. It has burned through.
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Old 10-12-2021 | 11:55 AM
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you guys are all super smart..any of you guys have a clinic to come to...I need my b hole bleached
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Old 10-12-2021 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by machz990
The MSM thrives on fear and sensationalism. That maybe we can all agree on. They also know most Americans are too lazy to do their own research and rely on the MSM to spoon feed them in easily digested ADD small bites. So where is the story on these annoying facts? COVID cases and deaths are plummeting. But please don’t believe me. Go to the CDC website and look for yourself. Select the chart for cases by sex and the chart for deaths by sex. Cases are down near baseline.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...aphicsovertime
I get all my news from "Drudge" and I have been scared and fearful since the Clinton era.
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Old 10-12-2021 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
Definition of advise per webster "to give information or notice to".

26.M.1. ".................. The company shall advise each pilot of the visas and immunizations he must possess.

You could state it this way. The company will give notice of the visas and immunizations he must possess.

Cut and dry. You will be advised and if you choose to not comply you will have consequences up to and including loss of employment. Simple.......
Your are probably right. I might just be pointing out a difference without a distinction. What is current practice for non-COVID vaccines? This clause also states visas. I wasn’t required to get one until I was in a base/seat that had trips that went to China.



Originally Posted by busdriver12
That 0.2% of the population that has died has had the ultimate liberty taken away from them, their very survival.
We shouldn’t erode freedoms and liberties of the 99.8% for the other 0.2%. Especially when we know that the overwhelming majority of the 0.2% are the very elderly or those with specific comorbidities. We should have put mitigations in place to specifically protect them and let others have the freedoms to chose their motivations depending on their risk aversion.



Originally Posted by machz990
Hospital bed and ICU bed utilization by COVID patients. Select state, city, radius, whatever you want. This is the HHS.gov website. Facts matter.

https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages...al-utilization

There may be localized areas where ICU beds become constrained from time to time. It doesn’t make sense for the entire country to go into lockdown because some rural town In Louisiana has a shortage of hospital beds. This is why these sorts of decisions should’ve been left entirely to governors and let the feds deal with developing therapeutics, vaccines and the distribution of them.
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