We expect rumors will begin to emanate...
11-20-2021, 06:53 PM
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We expect rumors will begin to emanate...
- Company response “diametrically opposed” to union retirement proposal. “ Bankruptcy era response.” B plan only?
- “It reflects very few of the pilot inputs that formed the basis of our retirement proposal.”
Pilot inputs demanded pancakes? Company apparently allergic to pancakes. Me too.
- Company says pancakes are cost prohibitive. Who the heck knows since there is no codified funding requirement concerning pancake plans with permanent stabilization side savings accounts in existence.
- Lots of “the company doesn’t want you to know what they REALLY want to do to your benefits” and what they really DONT want you to know is”.
If we only knew what our actual retirement proposal was (pancake vs increase current plan) AND if that actually aligned with the desire of the pilot group concerning the pancake plan then outrage could be shared.
Instead it’s all cryptic and angry about what we don’t even know.
Cue the rumors from various sources - this means the membership probably needs a more clear explanation of our own position.
- “It reflects very few of the pilot inputs that formed the basis of our retirement proposal.”
Pilot inputs demanded pancakes? Company apparently allergic to pancakes. Me too.
- Company says pancakes are cost prohibitive. Who the heck knows since there is no codified funding requirement concerning pancake plans with permanent stabilization side savings accounts in existence.
- Lots of “the company doesn’t want you to know what they REALLY want to do to your benefits” and what they really DONT want you to know is”.
If we only knew what our actual retirement proposal was (pancake vs increase current plan) AND if that actually aligned with the desire of the pilot group concerning the pancake plan then outrage could be shared.
Instead it’s all cryptic and angry about what we don’t even know.
Cue the rumors from various sources - this means the membership probably needs a more clear explanation of our own position.
11-20-2021, 07:38 PM
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This is my first negotiation at FDX. Been an ALPA member for 15 years. With posts like this, we deserve whatever trash we get. I know it’s an anonymous board, but this garbage is pathetic. I’m almost embarrassed by us as a group. We can’t keep our lips closed for five minutes. What a joke.
11-20-2021, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy
This is my first negotiation at FDX. Been an ALPA member for 15 years. With posts like this, we deserve whatever trash we get. I know it’s an anonymous board, but this garbage is pathetic. I’m almost embarrassed by us as a group. We can’t keep our lips closed for five minutes. What a joke.
11-20-2021, 08:07 PM
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Perhaps if the union would quit pushing their pancake plan, or at least tell us what they are pushing, I would have more interest.
Telling us in terms so vague we have no idea what to be outraged about isn't helping.
The company is always going to lowball us. That's their job. Our job is to say "no".
If it takes voting no resoundingly on a TA, I am ok with that.
The problem is, the union always pushes for us to vote "yes" even when they are feeding us a crap sandwich.
Telling us in terms so vague we have no idea what to be outraged about isn't helping.
The company is always going to lowball us. That's their job. Our job is to say "no".
If it takes voting no resoundingly on a TA, I am ok with that.
The problem is, the union always pushes for us to vote "yes" even when they are feeding us a crap sandwich.
11-20-2021, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy
This is my first negotiation at FDX. Been an ALPA member for 15 years. With posts like this, we deserve whatever trash we get. I know it’s an anonymous board, but this garbage is pathetic. I’m almost embarrassed by us as a group. We can’t keep our lips closed for five minutes. What a joke.
Hopefully you’re not one of the “noobs” voluntarily extending your trips to 150 hours.
11-20-2021, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DR K
- Company response “diametrically opposed” to union retirement proposal. “ Bankruptcy era response.” B plan only?
- “It reflects very few of the pilot inputs that formed the basis of our retirement proposal.”
Pilot inputs demanded pancakes? Company apparently allergic to pancakes. Me too.
- Company says pancakes are cost prohibitive. Who the heck knows since there is no codified funding requirement concerning pancake plans with permanent stabilization side savings accounts in existence.
- Lots of “the company doesn’t want you to know what they REALLY want to do to your benefits” and what they really DONT want you to know is”.
If we only knew what our actual retirement proposal was (pancake vs increase current plan) AND if that actually aligned with the desire of the pilot group concerning the pancake plan then outrage could be shared.
Instead it’s all cryptic and angry about what we don’t even know.
Cue the rumors from various sources - this means the membership probably needs a more clear explanation of our own position.
- “It reflects very few of the pilot inputs that formed the basis of our retirement proposal.”
Pilot inputs demanded pancakes? Company apparently allergic to pancakes. Me too.
- Company says pancakes are cost prohibitive. Who the heck knows since there is no codified funding requirement concerning pancake plans with permanent stabilization side savings accounts in existence.
- Lots of “the company doesn’t want you to know what they REALLY want to do to your benefits” and what they really DONT want you to know is”.
If we only knew what our actual retirement proposal was (pancake vs increase current plan) AND if that actually aligned with the desire of the pilot group concerning the pancake plan then outrage could be shared.
Instead it’s all cryptic and angry about what we don’t even know.
Cue the rumors from various sources - this means the membership probably needs a more clear explanation of our own position.
11-21-2021, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX1
Go back to your cubicle. Nice attempt at dividing the crew force. Absolutely idiotic.
11-21-2021, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
How is the poster dividing the crew force? The post is on point. If we knew and supported the union proposal was then we could have a say. To me all this is just codes which I don’t understand so they mean nothing to me. The only thing I fully understand is our current retirement plan so I’ll stick with what I know
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