Back End Deviation Ridiculousness
11-06-2022 | 01:22 PM
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Yeah, I get that. But he said they called the day before. If they called the day before, ie Tuesday for a Wednesday trip, wouldn't there have been enough time to notify him and release him for a legal rest? There just seems to be some additional information that isn't there.
11-06-2022 | 01:51 PM
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Not sure I should post the Insite response since it is from the company, but basically said original deviation should have gone away. To me, when they revise your trip, it is no longer your original trip. Deviate or not, should be treated as a new trip, but that's just my opinion.
11-06-2022 | 03:52 PM
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Back End Deviation Ridiculousness
Yeah, I get that. But he said they called the day before. If they called the day before, ie Tuesday for a Wednesday trip, wouldn't there have been enough time to notify him and release him for a legal rest? There just seems to be some additional information that isn't there.
Ok, but still. A VIPs notification is not a legal notification if you never check it. And you shouldn’t if one is on reserve.
11-06-2022 | 05:25 PM
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DART Response: Thank you for submitting a DART. Unfortunately once you deviate in the system, you are not able to undo the deviation. I realize your travel date has passed, so my apologies for the late response. I hope this response can help for future planning.
Not sure I should post the Insite response since it is from the company, but basically said original deviation should have gone away. To me, when they revise your trip, it is no longer your original trip. Deviate or not, should be treated as a new trip, but that's just my opinion.
Not sure I should post the Insite response since it is from the company, but basically said original deviation should have gone away. To me, when they revise your trip, it is no longer your original trip. Deviate or not, should be treated as a new trip, but that's just my opinion.
11-06-2022 | 07:55 PM
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Yeah, I get that. But he said they called the day before. If they called the day before, ie Tuesday for a Wednesday trip, wouldn't there have been enough time to notify him and release him for a legal rest? There just seems to be some additional information that isn't there.
11-06-2022 | 08:01 PM
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Yeah, I get that. But he said they called the day before. If they called the day before, ie Tuesday for a Wednesday trip, wouldn't there have been enough time to notify him and release him for a legal rest? There just seems to be some additional information that isn't there.
11-07-2022 | 03:44 AM
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They called me on a day off for a trip the next day that exceeded 16 hour duty unless I answered the phone and was released to showtime. The voicemail said it was a courtesy call and if I could log in and acknowledge…. Since when does an assignment get a courtesy call on a day off?
11-07-2022 | 05:03 AM
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Ahh, so it was the day before you started your block of reserve. Yeah, an attempt by CRS to get you to answer your phone and notify you so that you would be released until show. While it is not in the spirit of the notification process, it isn't a violation of the contract either. That is why it is important that we all know what we are required to do per the contract. Glad you didn't answer or acknowledge the VIPS notification. They were doing their best to fill a trip. You did what you were required to do. Surprised they didn't try to give it to an R24 pilot. Probably had them all in hotel standby!
11-07-2022 | 05:12 AM
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Ahh, so it was the day before you started your block of reserve. Yeah, an attempt by CRS to get you to answer your phone and notify you so that you would be released until show. While it is not in the spirit of the notification process, it isn't a violation of the contract either. That is why it is important that we all know what we are required to do per the contract. Glad you didn't answer or acknowledge the VIPS notification. They were doing their best to fill a trip. You did what you were required to do. Surprised they didn't try to give it to an R24 pilot. Probably had them all in hotel standby!
11-07-2022 | 06:50 AM
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What are you disagreeing with? Do you think this was a contract violation? If so, then what section did they violate? The contract only states when you have to be available for notification, it doesn't restrict the company from attempting to notify you earlier.
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