threeighteen

yep... the company can theoretically steal 42 extra days a year from you even if you're already working at min days off. (84hrs x 12 months = 42 days)

No restored days off.

Doesn't happen much these days, but it did happen to me three months in a row last summer.

schloppy1

I was gone three whole months in 2021. Single departure lines extended into training and snowmagedden. In lean times, they’ll deny secondary line holders their minimums and in Covid times, they’ll extend your ass with impunity. I’ve experienced both. I don’t hate this place as much as my posts may make it seem. But serious change needs to occur here to make this a safe and viable airline/career for those that are coming up behind us.

Emmerson Bigs

Steal? Really?
Look - If someone came here and did so ignorant of the CBA then that's on them. None of this is new - the CBA in it's current form began in 2006 with the ability for the company to utilize extensions in exchange for significant monetary gains by the pilot. And guess what? Until a global pandemic, a 3.5 day international trip extension was usually a once a year event IF THAT. When it does happen it's hardly "stealing". In exchange for those 3.5 days, a pilot will usually earn at least 7 CH if not 10.5 CH in extra duty periods plus about 39 CH in overage.
Doesn't happen much these days is a correct statement and likely will remain correct until the next pandemic. So let's try to keep things in perspective. It might be nice to have the ability to refuse an extension. But even if we could, Covid ops aside, I'll bet you most wouldn't refuse because the whole point of the current CBA provisions on this is big money in exchange for the company's problem being solved. If Covid taught us anything, it's that FedEx pilots will do just about anything for some extra cash.

schloppy1

Where are these company loving pilots coming from? They haven’t been here until crap started to get real. I’d love to deny an extension. Show me in the contract where I can do that and not suffer monetary loss. I did cry uncle and call in sick when I was actually sick and my trip was extended before it even started. Show me your anger for the company putting new hires in airplanes ahead of pilots on property already awarded the machine. Are you really seniority list pilots, or just trolls?

UnusualAttitude

Sadly, these guys are actually MEC insiders who are attempting to defer the heat that the MEC is feeling for neglecting the entire contract except for Retirement in this negotiation process. Many MEC reps are feeling the heat and being asked about Scope and industry standard QOL, which they know we will lag far behind in. These new posters are MEC insiders working to create a false perspective and lower expectations for what will be an industry substandard contract in many areas.

threeighteen

Yes. Really. Time off is one of the most valuable things we have in this career. And the company can take that from you, 84 hours at a time.

Yeah it is. But it's also really difficult, or at least up until recently it was really difficult to get someone to tell you the truth about how awful our CBA is when it comes to work rules and QOL.

A good floor for significant monetary gains would be 200% for the whole trip and 300% for the extension. 200% for only part of an involuntary extension is not worth it, at all.

YIKES.

If you think 7-10.5 CH extra is big money, you probably shouldn't look at a real CBA.

schloppy1

And they say that they don’t participate in social media!! lol.

frozenboxhauler

I'm going to call you on that one, UA. Who are they?
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FXLAX

Eighty four hours is ridiculous though (even 36 for domestic). UPS is 48 hours. Anything after that should be voluntary at more compensation than current. But even though I mentioned that in the survey, it wasn’t included in the openers. I was in the extreme minority because I rarely hear anyone complain about it. Oh well…

md11pilot11

Can someone help me understand these “extensions”? From what I gather at most of the pax airlines, getting extended into a day off is something that doesn’t really happen unless weather or mechanical? And if you do it’s paid at a premium and you get a comp day off the following bid month. When I heard you could get extended for that much time at FedEx. I was pretty surprised.