TA 1.5
08-03-2023, 11:01 PM
#31
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: MD11 FO
Posts: 142
Originally Posted by BrianH
First off, we are in mediation. The NMB owns the process from here. So they are mandatory at this point.
Second, The MEC did not do its job. Most wrote unflattering comms talking down to us. They did not represent us. Those who did will be judged by their councils.
Third, with the numbers put out my the MEC Chair, no two items are going to fix this to a 50% +1. Retirement, pay, and SCOPE must be addressed. And SMU, and 100% sell back are gone as well (my guess).
The good news is we can do all this by peak IF the company truly wants good labor relations as the global economy starts to grow again.
Second, The MEC did not do its job. Most wrote unflattering comms talking down to us. They did not represent us. Those who did will be judged by their councils.
Third, with the numbers put out my the MEC Chair, no two items are going to fix this to a 50% +1. Retirement, pay, and SCOPE must be addressed. And SMU, and 100% sell back are gone as well (my guess).
The good news is we can do all this by peak IF the company truly wants good labor relations as the global economy starts to grow again.
08-11-2023, 07:30 AM
#33
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Joined APC: Aug 2023
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08-11-2023, 02:57 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 94
Originally Posted by WilsonFDX
Wilson Says TonyTicker is live https://www.fdxjetflyers.com/ticker/tonyticker.html
I love it. Hopefully it keeps you up at night, you’ll need that skill when the postal contract is done and you’re back to flying domestic AM hub turns.
08-12-2023, 04:04 PM
#36
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: MD11 FO
Posts: 1,109
Originally Posted by Grease
Brown guy here with a question: was there a movement from pilots to sunset the A plan prior to the TA coming out, or was this a total surprise like it was to us outsiders? Where did the idea come from? Thanks!
08-12-2023, 04:06 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by Freighthumper
No surprise. The NC spent millions on developing a new plan for retirement that they tried to sell the company outside of section 6 about 5 years ago. The company laughed and said no thanks.
08-12-2023, 04:13 PM
#38
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Posts: 1,109
Originally Posted by threeighteen
We don’t want TA 1.5.
almost everything about TA 1.0 was a total failure and that makes it a horrible platform to build on.
almost everything about TA 1.0 was a total failure and that makes it a horrible platform to build on.
08-12-2023, 05:02 PM
#39
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Position: Wichita
Posts: 692
Originally Posted by Tuck
So everything was bad? Not one good thing in it? You’d rather start over and open everything because now, the guys that weren’t here when we started and built openers want their cake and want to eat it too? Tell u what - u aren’t going to get more than the published $3.8B in value - not from this crew force which has grown weaker in the last few years (never seen so much overflying during negotiations for example) . So want to move money around? Or you want to start over and see who can wait longer - The $100B Company with a real desire to not increase unions on property or the 5800 of us - including 1500 hires in last three years with weaker than historical credentials and whiny attitudes (we constantly lowered our minimums and rarely ever said no to anyone in last 3 years) ? Think I’ll go with option A.
best on the job training in the industry.
08-12-2023, 05:25 PM
#40
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Originally Posted by Tuck
So everything was bad? Not one good thing in it? You’d rather start over and open everything because now, the guys that weren’t here when we started and built openers want their cake and want to eat it too? Tell u what - u aren’t going to get more than the published $3.8B in value - not from this crew force which has grown weaker in the last few years (never seen so much overflying during negotiations for example) . So want to move money around? Or you want to start over and see who can wait longer - The $100B Company with a real desire to not increase unions on property or the 5800 of us - including 1500 hires in last three years with weaker than historical credentials and whiny attitudes (we constantly lowered our minimums and rarely ever said no to anyone in last 3 years) ? Think I’ll go with option A.
Pretty sad that none of them resigned, honestly. If they did, it would allow us to move toward the next deal faster. Instead, we have to spend months cleaning house first. By the unions own math, this is costing the pilot group $70M/month.
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