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08-03-2023 | 11:01 PM
#31
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From: MD11 FO
First off, we are in mediation. The NMB owns the process from here. So they are mandatory at this point.
Second, The MEC did not do its job. Most wrote unflattering comms talking down to us. They did not represent us. Those who did will be judged by their councils.
Third, with the numbers put out my the MEC Chair, no two items are going to fix this to a 50% +1. Retirement, pay, and SCOPE must be addressed. And SMU, and 100% sell back are gone as well (my guess).
The good news is we can do all this by peak IF the company truly wants good labor relations as the global economy starts to grow again.
Second, The MEC did not do its job. Most wrote unflattering comms talking down to us. They did not represent us. Those who did will be judged by their councils.
Third, with the numbers put out my the MEC Chair, no two items are going to fix this to a 50% +1. Retirement, pay, and SCOPE must be addressed. And SMU, and 100% sell back are gone as well (my guess).
The good news is we can do all this by peak IF the company truly wants good labor relations as the global economy starts to grow again.
08-11-2023 | 07:30 AM
#33
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08-11-2023 | 02:57 PM
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I love it. Hopefully it keeps you up at night, you’ll need that skill when the postal contract is done and you’re back to flying domestic AM hub turns.
08-12-2023 | 04:04 PM
#36
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no you would have to be completely oblivious to not know that was the plan IF we wanted to improve A plan for those on property. That was talked about among LECs for years. It was either that OR go with something like a PSPP/MBCBP for all and a bonus of sorts for those retiring soon. Crew force was tepid for PSPP to begin with. Cutler himself was HUGE on improving A plan and knew that the only way to do it was to sunset it.
08-12-2023 | 04:06 PM
#37
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millions? How ignorant are you? Ever ask your rep or just determine that for yourself. Well under $1mil - you have to ask to know though - or you can keep spewing complete BS on social media. Hope your wife is in charge of finances at the house.
08-12-2023 | 04:13 PM
#38
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So everything was bad? Not one good thing in it? You’d rather start over and open everything because now, the guys that weren’t here when we started and built openers want their cake and want to eat it too? Tell u what - u aren’t going to get more than the published $3.8B in value - not from this crew force which has grown weaker in the last few years (never seen so much overflying during negotiations for example) . So want to move money around? Or you want to start over and see who can wait longer - The $100B Company with a real desire to not increase unions on property or the 5800 of us - including 1500 hires in last three years with weaker than historical credentials and whiny attitudes (we constantly lowered our minimums and rarely ever said no to anyone in last 3 years) ? Think I’ll go with option A.
08-12-2023 | 05:02 PM
#39
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So everything was bad? Not one good thing in it? You’d rather start over and open everything because now, the guys that weren’t here when we started and built openers want their cake and want to eat it too? Tell u what - u aren’t going to get more than the published $3.8B in value - not from this crew force which has grown weaker in the last few years (never seen so much overflying during negotiations for example) . So want to move money around? Or you want to start over and see who can wait longer - The $100B Company with a real desire to not increase unions on property or the 5800 of us - including 1500 hires in last three years with weaker than historical credentials and whiny attitudes (we constantly lowered our minimums and rarely ever said no to anyone in last 3 years) ? Think I’ll go with option A.
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08-12-2023 | 05:25 PM
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So everything was bad? Not one good thing in it? You’d rather start over and open everything because now, the guys that weren’t here when we started and built openers want their cake and want to eat it too? Tell u what - u aren’t going to get more than the published $3.8B in value - not from this crew force which has grown weaker in the last few years (never seen so much overflying during negotiations for example) . So want to move money around? Or you want to start over and see who can wait longer - The $100B Company with a real desire to not increase unions on property or the 5800 of us - including 1500 hires in last three years with weaker than historical credentials and whiny attitudes (we constantly lowered our minimums and rarely ever said no to anyone in last 3 years) ? Think I’ll go with option A.
Pretty sad that none of them resigned, honestly. If they did, it would allow us to move toward the next deal faster. Instead, we have to spend months cleaning house first. By the unions own math, this is costing the pilot group $70M/month.
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