Originally Posted by P-3Bubba

I Disagree. There's way more contract fatigue now that we're 4.5 years down the road. TA23 failed 57-43. Thats not an overwhelming rejection. I bet you could pass TA23 today with the fatigue that exists today. You put some money on the table and no one is going to be making a "GOT SCOPE?" charge. The reality is the time value of money has left us in the dust. TA23 pay rates in 2025 would have paid back on average $50,000 returns in the 2025 401k market. These things keep compounding. People crying about student lines and scope. The company moved AIr Freight from jets off the HUB into TRUCKS during peak. They can kick our a$$ aanyday they want. WAKE UP PILOTS! We are not the integral part of this operation that we have artificially and psychologically created in our minds. So, anyways, even if the TA2? is a big STEAMER it will PASS. And on the crew bus or in the CAN executive lounge or pouring a hot cup of ROAR you'll hear 90% Voted NO. Reality? It will pass at a MINIMUM 60-40

-Bubs

Originally Posted by max8222

There were a fairly large number of block one that voted no. A lot of then figured we would have a new TA in a year. I doubt many will vote no on the next TA.

Originally Posted by Iwa Washi

You think all of the 500 junior pilots, who were on probation and couldn't vote during TA23, have left? I'll bet that if TA23 were voted on today, it would fail by over 70%.

Originally Posted by max8222

Move on from TA23, talking about the future TA.

Originally Posted by max8222

Move on from TA23, talking about the future TA.