My point is the Union or company should have mentioned this on the Bid. For those of you who flew at other 121 carriers its not an issue but for military pilots it may be an issue if they don't get their time in before upgrade. Especially if you are taking mil leave while trying to obtain the 1000 hours.

 

I see your point. It might get interesting in a year or two when the junior folks start training. I wonder what the company will do if this happens. Time will tell.

 

That link gives bad gouge. The 1000 can be 121,135, 91(to an extent) or up to 500 military multi-turbine, or any combination of those.

121.436

 

How many vacancies to be filled with new-hires?

 

It says may credit 500 multi turbine military flight time. This is towards the 1000 hour requirement. So a single engine fighter jock with no civilian experience needs 1000 SIC in 121 or a multi turbine military pilot not single pilot still needs 500 more SIC. Single pilot multi turbine mil pilot needs the full 1000! Bottom line, potential for pilots to receive award without the appropriate qualifications.

[Doc. No. FAA-2010-0100, 78 FR 42378, July 15, 2013, as amended by Amdt. 121-365A, 78 FR 77574, Dec. 24, 2013]
(a) No certificate holder may use nor may any pilot act as pilot in command of an aircraft (or as second in command of an aircraft in a flag or supplemental operation that requires three or more pilots) unless the pilot:

(1) Holds an airline transport pilot certificate not subject to the limitations in §61.167 of this chapter;

(2) Holds an appropriate aircraft type rating for the aircraft being flown; and

(3) If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under §91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof. For those pilots who are employed as pilot in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the requirements of this paragraph (a)(3) is not required.

(b) No certificate holder may use nor may any pilot act as second in command unless the pilot holds an airline transport pilot certificate and an appropriate aircraft type rating for the aircraft being flown. A second-in-command type rating obtained under §61.55 does not satisfy the requirements of this section.

(c) For the purpose of satisfying the flight hour requirement in paragraph (a)(3) of this section, a pilot may credit 500 hours of military flight time obtained as pilot in command of a multiengine turbine-powered, fixed-wing airplane in an operation requiring more than one pilot.

(d) Compliance with the requirements of this section is required by August 1, 2013. However, for those pilots who are employed as second in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the type rating requirement in paragraph (b) of this section is not required until January 1, 2016.

 

I always suspected Joshua controlled our lives (and liked to play global thermonuclear war).

 

After crunching the numbers for the final..

Somewhere north of 800 unfilled FO Vacancies

By Plane/Domicile (Numbers are close approx.)

MEM 757 --> 185
EUR 757 --> 7
A300 --> 129
MEM 767 --> 119
IND 767 --> 14
HKG 767 --> 21
MEM MD11 --> 208
ANC MD11 --> 25
LAX MD11 --> 0
MEM 777 -->108


Looks like a wide range of options for new hire classes depending on what the company's needs are in any particular month.

 

I retract any and all my previous discussions of "mode shift".

This is crow I am thrilled to eat. I have to wonder if the company sees some TNT windfalls in addition to the retirement numbers.

Incredible times.

I'd still remember 2008-2011 and try not spend everything I made... Huck once said "you know why your grandma saved yarn? You are about to find out..." Here's to good times for now...

 

Shows just how lean PC ran this place and drove us deep in the hole of undermanning... I'm sure he got a bonus...

 

I was at 9E for 121 so no problem here.