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01-29-2007, 08:48 AM
#41
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
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I'm just curious but according to the calculations of http://www.shebleaviation.com the total price for all of your ratings is under 20K dollars. Could somebody please elaborate and tell me if this is correct or are there alot of hidden fees?
01-29-2007, 09:13 AM
#43
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Position: UV-18B Jumpmaster
Posts: 71
SiShane and others...
Here's my deal, maybe it'll help. I'm active duty Air Force enlisted. Have been in for just over 13 yrs, going to at least 20. My real job is jet engine mechanic, I'm away from it on a special duty assignment right now. I have my associates for maintenance, and I have my tickets to take all 3 A&P test, just need to study up and do it. That's my back up.
I'm doing my BS degree online through Utah Valley State College's global aviation thing. All my ground schools are done online there, and the Air Force pays 100% of my tuition, therefore, all ground schools and classes are paid for. I do my flying locally at a military aero club.
Since my ratings are for a college degree, I take out student loans. I pay the interest while in school, although I don't have too. I pay a bit on principal amounts too.
My private is all from student loan money. After the private, I take advantage of the VA's 60/40 flight program. If you've got the GI Bill, you qualify. After I complete every rating except PPL, I get a 60% reimbursement of my costs. This does include flight time costs and CFI costs. The neat thing is, I start commercial right after IR, the VA reimburses 60% of all my costs to finish my commercial, so all that time building I have to do, yup, reimbursed.
I have always regretted not starting alot earlier in life like I wanted to. But now, by taking the advantages of 100% tuition assistance and the VA's GI Bill flight reimbursement, I'll be able to get through my ratings quite affordably, and with the cheaper prices of the military aero club to help overall. All this while still having a nice full time job, family, and a home. I couldn't have pulled all this off years before. Now I can afford to do it, and I'll have the ratings and the student loans paid off before I retire.
I don't have that fear of not having a job or a low paying pilot job, and lots of debt to worry about. I'll retire, with disability on top of that, no debt, and I can fly doing a job I want to do, not one I have to worry about pay to get out of the loan debt.
I hope this helps. Feel free to PM if you have any questions.
Here's my deal, maybe it'll help. I'm active duty Air Force enlisted. Have been in for just over 13 yrs, going to at least 20. My real job is jet engine mechanic, I'm away from it on a special duty assignment right now. I have my associates for maintenance, and I have my tickets to take all 3 A&P test, just need to study up and do it. That's my back up.
I'm doing my BS degree online through Utah Valley State College's global aviation thing. All my ground schools are done online there, and the Air Force pays 100% of my tuition, therefore, all ground schools and classes are paid for. I do my flying locally at a military aero club.
Since my ratings are for a college degree, I take out student loans. I pay the interest while in school, although I don't have too. I pay a bit on principal amounts too.
My private is all from student loan money. After the private, I take advantage of the VA's 60/40 flight program. If you've got the GI Bill, you qualify. After I complete every rating except PPL, I get a 60% reimbursement of my costs. This does include flight time costs and CFI costs. The neat thing is, I start commercial right after IR, the VA reimburses 60% of all my costs to finish my commercial, so all that time building I have to do, yup, reimbursed.
I have always regretted not starting alot earlier in life like I wanted to. But now, by taking the advantages of 100% tuition assistance and the VA's GI Bill flight reimbursement, I'll be able to get through my ratings quite affordably, and with the cheaper prices of the military aero club to help overall. All this while still having a nice full time job, family, and a home. I couldn't have pulled all this off years before. Now I can afford to do it, and I'll have the ratings and the student loans paid off before I retire.
I don't have that fear of not having a job or a low paying pilot job, and lots of debt to worry about. I'll retire, with disability on top of that, no debt, and I can fly doing a job I want to do, not one I have to worry about pay to get out of the loan debt.
I hope this helps. Feel free to PM if you have any questions.
01-29-2007, 09:17 AM
#44
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Joined APC: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,242
Originally Posted by Tadpole
SiShane and others...
Here's my deal, maybe it'll help. I'm active duty Air Force enlisted. Have been in for just over 13 yrs, going to at least 20. My real job is jet engine mechanic, I'm away from it on a special duty assignment right now. I have my associates for maintenance, and I have my tickets to take all 3 A&P test, just need to study up and do it. That's my back up.
I'm doing my BS degree online through Utah Valley State College's global aviation thing. All my ground schools are done online there, and the Air Force pays 100% of my tuition, therefore, all ground schools and classes are paid for. I do my flying locally at a military aero club.
Since my ratings are for a college degree, I take out student loans. I pay the interest while in school, although I don't have too. I pay a bit on principal amounts too.
My private is all from student loan money. After the private, I take advantage of the VA's 60/40 flight program. If you've got the GI Bill, you qualify. After I complete every rating except PPL, I get a 60% reimbursement of my costs. This does include flight time costs and CFI costs. The neat thing is, I start commercial right after IR, the VA reimburses 60% of all my costs to finish my commercial, so all that time building I have to do, yup, reimbursed.
I have always regretted not starting alot earlier in life like I wanted to. But now, by taking the advantages of 100% tuition assistance and the VA's GI Bill flight reimbursement, I'll be able to get through my ratings quite affordably, and with the cheaper prices of the military aero club to help overall. All this while still having a nice full time job, family, and a home. I couldn't have pulled all this off years before. Now I can afford to do it, and I'll have the ratings and the student loans paid off before I retire.
I don't have that fear of not having a job or a low paying pilot job, and lots of debt to worry about. I'll retire, with disability on top of that, no debt, and I can fly doing a job I want to do, not one I have to worry about pay to get out of the loan debt.
I hope this helps. Feel free to PM if you have any questions.
Here's my deal, maybe it'll help. I'm active duty Air Force enlisted. Have been in for just over 13 yrs, going to at least 20. My real job is jet engine mechanic, I'm away from it on a special duty assignment right now. I have my associates for maintenance, and I have my tickets to take all 3 A&P test, just need to study up and do it. That's my back up.
I'm doing my BS degree online through Utah Valley State College's global aviation thing. All my ground schools are done online there, and the Air Force pays 100% of my tuition, therefore, all ground schools and classes are paid for. I do my flying locally at a military aero club.
Since my ratings are for a college degree, I take out student loans. I pay the interest while in school, although I don't have too. I pay a bit on principal amounts too.
My private is all from student loan money. After the private, I take advantage of the VA's 60/40 flight program. If you've got the GI Bill, you qualify. After I complete every rating except PPL, I get a 60% reimbursement of my costs. This does include flight time costs and CFI costs. The neat thing is, I start commercial right after IR, the VA reimburses 60% of all my costs to finish my commercial, so all that time building I have to do, yup, reimbursed.
I have always regretted not starting alot earlier in life like I wanted to. But now, by taking the advantages of 100% tuition assistance and the VA's GI Bill flight reimbursement, I'll be able to get through my ratings quite affordably, and with the cheaper prices of the military aero club to help overall. All this while still having a nice full time job, family, and a home. I couldn't have pulled all this off years before. Now I can afford to do it, and I'll have the ratings and the student loans paid off before I retire.
I don't have that fear of not having a job or a low paying pilot job, and lots of debt to worry about. I'll retire, with disability on top of that, no debt, and I can fly doing a job I want to do, not one I have to worry about pay to get out of the loan debt.
I hope this helps. Feel free to PM if you have any questions.
Good for you! I'm active-duty AF as well. I finished my PPL but will be waiting to get the rest of my ratings at www.allatps.com after I retire.
Good luck to you and enjoy the rest of your time...I have the same #er of years left to go...
-LAFF
01-29-2007, 09:18 AM
#45
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: UV-18B Jumpmaster
Posts: 71
Haha, do you make a post without mentioning ATP? I've been trolling for a bit, finally got my approval to post today.
Thanks for your service too!
EDIT, I should clarify "all my ratings", PPL, Instr, Comm, Multi, CFI, CFII, MEI.
ATP is way down the road not putting alot of thought towards that yet, many years to go on that one.
Thanks for your service too!
EDIT, I should clarify "all my ratings", PPL, Instr, Comm, Multi, CFI, CFII, MEI.
ATP is way down the road not putting alot of thought towards that yet, many years to go on that one.
Last edited by Tadpole; 01-29-2007 at 09:39 AM.
01-29-2007, 09:41 AM
#46
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: UPS 757/767 Capt ONT
Posts: 4,357
"Could somebody please elaborate and tell me if this is correct or are there alot of hidden fees?"
You need to visit the place to make sure it's a good fit. I have a buddy who did his CFI there and was happy with the outcome and overall value of the program. A couple of years later he's a metro checkairman at a large 135 freight outfit. The only hidden fee I could think of would be for checkrides. Not sure if that's included in the quote. Sheble's is a fairly small academy in Blythe, CA. They have been around a long time. They aren't for everyone. Again, you should make a personal visit if you're interested.
You need to visit the place to make sure it's a good fit. I have a buddy who did his CFI there and was happy with the outcome and overall value of the program. A couple of years later he's a metro checkairman at a large 135 freight outfit. The only hidden fee I could think of would be for checkrides. Not sure if that's included in the quote. Sheble's is a fairly small academy in Blythe, CA. They have been around a long time. They aren't for everyone. Again, you should make a personal visit if you're interested.
10-27-2010, 02:54 PM
#48
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Todd Man
My only point is that people who are considering aviation as a career are swamped with inaccurate and overly positive information. They read Flying Magazine and are convinced that they are all going to be rich 747 Captains within a few years. I feel that it is important to show the down side of making that choice. I say look at AOPA's pilot numbers. The number of new Commercial pilots created every year is much bigger than the number of new jobs. Aviation can be a rewarding career but the odds are that it will leave most disappointed and deeply in debt.
SkyHigh
My only point is that people who are considering aviation as a career are swamped with inaccurate and overly positive information. They read Flying Magazine and are convinced that they are all going to be rich 747 Captains within a few years. I feel that it is important to show the down side of making that choice. I say look at AOPA's pilot numbers. The number of new Commercial pilots created every year is much bigger than the number of new jobs. Aviation can be a rewarding career but the odds are that it will leave most disappointed and deeply in debt.
SkyHigh
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