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Old 08-27-2010 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by e5casey
I went from 0 time to solo in just under 20 hours in a Cirrus and felt pretty comfortable. The plane is really great to fly and a lot of fun.
You are a VERY rare case!
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Old 08-30-2010 | 07:15 PM
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I'd love to attend CSIP training, but DANG, is it EXPENSIVE! The flight school that I worked for (now defunct, bankrupt, and hopefully will not come back) had us flying the SR 20s and 22s (we were not CSIPs) with Chinese students at the stick. We were having most of them solo around 40 hours or so because of a wide variety of problems they had. I'd much rather have students learn how to get the basic flight skills and their private pilot license in something that is a ton more docile than a Cirrus. For most beginning students, it is way too much aircraft for them to handle and way to unforgiving (think tail strikes on landings). I think a better plane for beginners to fly (and much more cheaper) would be a ol Cessna 172 or Piper Warrior. No fancy avionics, standard 6 pack, simple systems that most students should be able to handle without much trouble. After the students get their private pilot license, then step up to the Cirrus for instrument training or advanced training. That's just my .02 cents before the fall of the rest of the economny or whichever way it is heading!
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Old 08-31-2010 | 04:36 AM
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^^I agree 100% on that. People are too sucked in by technology, they forget they need to learn the basics first.
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Old 08-31-2010 | 07:40 AM
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840ish hours of dual given in Cirrus (Cirri?) later (All primary, instrument, and Commercial students, no transitions or checkouts), and I'll add that it's stall characteristics are not nearly as bad as the rumors. The Cirrus is a great airplane, especially the original Avidyne Integra model. Have also flown the Perspective (once), and the Avidyne Revision 9 (Checked out in it, a few hours) and neither of them were as intuitive.
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Old 08-31-2010 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by detpilot
The Cirrus is a great airplane, especially the original Avidyne Integra model. Have also flown the Perspective (once), and the Avidyne Revision 9 (Checked out in it, a few hours) and neither of them were as intuitive.
Never flown Perspective but we replaced the original Entegra 2 with R9 Platinum this past winter and I found the transition (once I figured out what frigging submenu I needed for what I wanted to see) to be very fast - had no flight instruction and just 20 minutes on ground power and was up doing practice approaches with it.
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Old 08-31-2010 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Never flown Perspective but we replaced the original Entegra 2 with R9 Platinum this past winter and I found the transition (once I figured out what frigging submenu I needed for what I wanted to see) to be very fast - had no flight instruction and just 20 minutes on ground power and was up doing practice approaches with it.
B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but without Cirrus approved instruction from a Cirrus approved CFI?

You're dangerous.

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Old 08-31-2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by minitour
You're dangerous.
That's right, Ice...Man. I am dangerous.

<sorry, but you can't lay off ones soft-tossed over the plate>
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Old 08-31-2010 | 10:13 AM
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Careful, you don't want to be flying rubber dog ____ from Hong Kong in that thing!
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Old 08-31-2010 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
That's right, Ice...Man. I am dangerous.

<sorry, but you can't lay off ones soft-tossed over the plate>
I'm so proud of you.

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Old 08-31-2010 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Keith Stone
cirrus has the best marketing department available

crappy stall characteristics, so let's throw in aparachute!

i'm with the previous posters...HP engine, shouldn't require the "extra" training just to make cirrus some extra $.

per the regs, the TAA "endorsement" is a joke. if you can fly a HP aircraft, your homework is done
What's so bad about the stalls? Neither I, nor any of my students have had a problem with them, in fact I find it to be more docile than a 172.
As for the parachute, from what I've been told it was going to be added anyways so they had it also certified as the Spin recovery rather than spending extra money to do additional spin training.
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