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#12
My advice...log AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. and why? because everyone else is. kinda like football players taking steroids(ya, it may not be the right thing to do, but you have to do it in order to compete). Trust me, there is a CFI going on a job interview at XJT next month who has logged 75 nore hours than she should have.
#15
#16
I wouldn't fudge anything. Most flying you do will have other records, hobbs, Mx records, billing records, student logbooks. Are you going to get your students to go in on it with you? What sort of example does that set? Eventually one of them will open his big mouth...
If you ever have an incident (especially in GA), those kind of records will get audited by the feds. An isolated typo is one thing, but a pattern of wholesale falsification will get all of your tickets revoked. Not suspended, but revoked. Also there is no statute of limitaions on that so you could be a 787 captain 20 years down the road and still be hoping that nobody ever looks too closely at your first logbook...
In the long run an extra 2-3% GA total time won't matter at all. If you fudge more than that, it gets dangerously blatant.
#17
Some people do it, and most get away with it, however...
I wouldn't fudge anything. Most flying you do will have other records, hobbs, Mx records, billing records, student logbooks. Are you going to get your students to go in on it with you? What sort of example does that set? Eventually one of them will open his big mouth...
If you ever have an incident (especially in GA), those kind of records will get audited by the feds. An isolated typo is one thing, but a pattern of wholesale falsification will get all of your tickets revoked. Not suspended, but revoked. Also there is no statute of limitaions on that so you could be a 787 captain 20 years down the road and still be hoping that nobody ever looks too closely at your first logbook...
In the long run an extra 2-3% GA total time won't matter at all. If you fudge more than that, it gets dangerously blatant.
I wouldn't fudge anything. Most flying you do will have other records, hobbs, Mx records, billing records, student logbooks. Are you going to get your students to go in on it with you? What sort of example does that set? Eventually one of them will open his big mouth...
If you ever have an incident (especially in GA), those kind of records will get audited by the feds. An isolated typo is one thing, but a pattern of wholesale falsification will get all of your tickets revoked. Not suspended, but revoked. Also there is no statute of limitaions on that so you could be a 787 captain 20 years down the road and still be hoping that nobody ever looks too closely at your first logbook...
In the long run an extra 2-3% GA total time won't matter at all. If you fudge more than that, it gets dangerously blatant.
I agree with you...I know people do it and can't understand what it gets them in return...A faster upgrade? Is it really worth it?
I've never fudged a single 0.1 in my logs. To me its not worth the integrity issues...
-LAFF
#18
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Personally I don't think that I would fudge any numbers, and I try to keep my log book numbers as accurate as possible, they may not be perfect because, well no one is perfect. But I think that fudging or lying about your times is outright wrong.
I don't think I would feel right knowing I got a job based on a lie, like fudged logbook numbers, I think it would eat away at me.
I don't think I would feel right knowing I got a job based on a lie, like fudged logbook numbers, I think it would eat away at me.
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Position: Sitting down and facing front. Why would you want to know that?
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#20
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Personally I don't think that I would fudge any numbers, and I try to keep my log book numbers as accurate as possible, they may not be perfect because, well no one is perfect. But I think that fudging or lying about your times is outright wrong.
I don't think I would feel right knowing I got a job based on a lie, like fudged logbook numbers, I think it would eat away at me.
I don't think I would feel right knowing I got a job based on a lie, like fudged logbook numbers, I think it would eat away at me.
I agree. I can honestly say that I have flown every hour that I have logged except for 0.3. That was during my CFI checkride. The hobbs said .9 but the DE put 1.2 in my logbook. Because it was for a checkride and an FAA rep put it in there and signed for it, I didn't change it, although I might someday so that I can say that it is 100% correct to my knowledge.
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