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Old 12-05-2006, 09:13 AM
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Be concervative...that is my suggestion. The normal actual instrument average per pilot is usually around 10% of their total time. But, this is an average...

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Old 12-05-2006, 09:20 AM
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My advice...log AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. and why? because everyone else is. kinda like football players taking steroids(ya, it may not be the right thing to do, but you have to do it in order to compete). Trust me, there is a CFI going on a job interview at XJT next month who has logged 75 nore hours than she should have.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:22 AM
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I know of one guy in particular who has logged ALL OF HIS IFR time(whether in IMC or not). i.e. ANYTIME he was on a IFR flight plan went in as "actual" in his book.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:26 AM
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Do you recommend adding say 0.2 to 0.3 to each flight so stay competitive with military guys as well?

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Old 12-05-2006, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer View Post
Do you recommend adding say 0.2 to 0.3 to each flight so stay competitive with military guys as well?

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Well, although I NEVER did, I know that some people argue that vfr on top is "technically" IMC. (although this IS bull$hit, it is at least arguable)
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer View Post
Do you recommend adding say 0.2 to 0.3 to each flight so stay competitive with military guys as well?

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Some people do it, and most get away with it, however...

I wouldn't fudge anything. Most flying you do will have other records, hobbs, Mx records, billing records, student logbooks. Are you going to get your students to go in on it with you? What sort of example does that set? Eventually one of them will open his big mouth...

If you ever have an incident (especially in GA), those kind of records will get audited by the feds. An isolated typo is one thing, but a pattern of wholesale falsification will get all of your tickets revoked. Not suspended, but revoked. Also there is no statute of limitaions on that so you could be a 787 captain 20 years down the road and still be hoping that nobody ever looks too closely at your first logbook...

In the long run an extra 2-3% GA total time won't matter at all. If you fudge more than that, it gets dangerously blatant.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Some people do it, and most get away with it, however...

I wouldn't fudge anything. Most flying you do will have other records, hobbs, Mx records, billing records, student logbooks. Are you going to get your students to go in on it with you? What sort of example does that set? Eventually one of them will open his big mouth...

If you ever have an incident (especially in GA), those kind of records will get audited by the feds. An isolated typo is one thing, but a pattern of wholesale falsification will get all of your tickets revoked. Not suspended, but revoked. Also there is no statute of limitaions on that so you could be a 787 captain 20 years down the road and still be hoping that nobody ever looks too closely at your first logbook...

In the long run an extra 2-3% GA total time won't matter at all. If you fudge more than that, it gets dangerously blatant.

I agree with you...I know people do it and can't understand what it gets them in return...A faster upgrade? Is it really worth it?

I've never fudged a single 0.1 in my logs. To me its not worth the integrity issues...

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Old 12-05-2006, 09:45 AM
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Personally I don't think that I would fudge any numbers, and I try to keep my log book numbers as accurate as possible, they may not be perfect because, well no one is perfect. But I think that fudging or lying about your times is outright wrong.

I don't think I would feel right knowing I got a job based on a lie, like fudged logbook numbers, I think it would eat away at me.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JSchraub View Post
I log .1 for every cloud I fly in...
It makes those flights that you fly through a bunch of little clouds look funny. How did you get 1.8 actual during a 1.3 flight?
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NE_Pilot View Post
Personally I don't think that I would fudge any numbers, and I try to keep my log book numbers as accurate as possible, they may not be perfect because, well no one is perfect. But I think that fudging or lying about your times is outright wrong.

I don't think I would feel right knowing I got a job based on a lie, like fudged logbook numbers, I think it would eat away at me.

I agree. I can honestly say that I have flown every hour that I have logged except for 0.3. That was during my CFI checkride. The hobbs said .9 but the DE put 1.2 in my logbook. Because it was for a checkride and an FAA rep put it in there and signed for it, I didn't change it, although I might someday so that I can say that it is 100% correct to my knowledge.
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