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12-05-2006, 11:20 AM
#21
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Position: 737 CA
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I logged my 1032 hours of actual instrument when I was in the clouds. I did not log any of my 2028 hours of night as actual instrument (unless I was in a cloud at night), even if it was moonless, on top, no horizon, etc. I guess it is true that you have to fly on instruments in that case, but since I was using an autopilot anyway, I don't feel like I should. I've always used clouds/IMC as my actual instrument time. I'm IFR all of the time.
Side note: It was VMC today flying over Greenland. It was a beautiful site. Normally, I don't get to see it.
Side note: It was VMC today flying over Greenland. It was a beautiful site. Normally, I don't get to see it.
12-05-2006, 12:15 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Jul 2005
Position: EMB 170/175 F.O.
Posts: 549
Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
My advice...log AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. and why? because everyone else is. kinda like football players taking steroids(ya, it may not be the right thing to do, but you have to do it in order to compete). Trust me, there is a CFI going on a job interview at XJT next month who has logged 75 nore hours than she should have. 
12-05-2006, 12:37 PM
#23
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: FO - 757/767
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Originally Posted by iflyjets4food
And what does it get you? If you fudge total time or multi engine time, maybe it'll get you a job. What good does fudging IFR time do? For the record, I've never fudged my logs for anything. I just can't see what having 98 hours of IFR time does when you only really have 85 hours of IFR time. The only thing it is good for is making you look rediculous when you are pathetic on the instruments.
12-05-2006, 02:07 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: SF340
Posts: 244
Originally Posted by Shaun
It makes those flights that you fly through a bunch of little clouds look funny. How did you get 1.8 actual during a 1.3 flight? 
12-05-2006, 02:38 PM
#25
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I think at my American Eagle (Wings West) interview in the '80's they were looking for about 10% of your total time to be your instrument time. This has already been mentioned and is probably a good guideline. Some will have less flying in VMC conditions in fair weather states or jobs (Grand Canyon tours, etc). Others will have more such as flying jobs in the Seattle area or NE U.S. I would not fudge your time if you have less than 10%. They (potential employer) will mainly see if you can fly on instruments in a simulator, so you better be able to do it no matter what actual time you have logged.
12-05-2006, 05:42 PM
#26
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Position: EMB 170/175 F.O.
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
more time looks better on a resume. hey, I'm not condoning it(and ALL of my time is clean), but I have learned that idealism just DOESN"T CUT IT in this society. i.e. do whatever it takes to get ahead
12-05-2006, 06:12 PM
#27
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Position: FO - 757/767
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Originally Posted by iflyjets4food
Right, I understand that part, but in order to fudge enough to actually look better on a resume, you have to make a SIGNIFICANT increase. 100 hrs vs. 85 hrs isn't enough to look much better on a resume. 500 hrs vs. 85 hrs does look better on a resume, but if you claim 500 hours of actual, you'd better fly like you have 500 hrs. of actual.
12-05-2006, 06:15 PM
#28
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Position: FO - 757/767
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Not to change the subject, but I seriously know an individual who jumpseats on great lakes twice a week and logs that time(from the back seats). The kicker is that he is NOT even typed in the craft, nor has he ever flown a 1900. He justifies it that if an emergency ever happend and both pilots were incapacitated, he would be called on to save the ship. no joke!
12-05-2006, 06:42 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
Not to change the subject, but I seriously know an individual who jumpseats on great lakes twice a week and logs that time(from the back seats). The kicker is that he is NOT even typed in the craft, nor has he ever flown a 1900. He justifies it that if an emergency ever happend and both pilots were incapacitated, he would be called on to save the ship. no joke!
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