Beretta01

You little weasel, you must have the foresight of a potato to want to go work at NAI.

You were one of those Gulfstream Int'l pay2play guys too, weren't ya!?

CousinEddie

The original poster asked about CASS. One way or another, commuting by air will not be an option to an NAI gig. So as you fill out that Out Source Me application, start researching where to move that is very close to whatever base you end up at. I'm sure NAI would want you very near the airport at all times for immediate availability on short notice, as this will best fit their business model. With such limited days off and shuffling of the deck to suit their needs, commuting would be problematic anyway. Good luck.

crflyer

Maybe the same reason he thinks "pilots" has an apostrophe.

shreddykreuger

How would you feel if a foreign based regional airline used sketchy tax exemption methods to gain an unfair advantage and undercut your current regional? They get all of the feed and now your company is putting pressure on you to take pay cuts/caps/lose vacation etc because they're shrinking and need to cut costs. What if someone junior to you left your regional and went to work at this new regional?

NEDude

The European Union and European Economic Area is considered a single market for businesses. Therefore it is a bit hard to argue that NAI is a true "flag of convenience" in the historical sense of the phrase. The model began in the shipping industry by flagging vessels in nations outside of the regulatory control of their home nations. A Norwegian airline starting a subsidiary in another nation within the EU or EEA does not allow Norwegian to escape EU/EEA rules and regulations. Had Norwegian set up a subsidiary in a place like Liberia you would have an argument, but Ireland is a full EU member and complies with all applicable EU labour laws. On top of that both Norway and Ireland are EASA members, so there is no escaping EASA regulations in the way they could if they had a true "flag of convenience" model in place.

U.S. based crews must either be U.S. citizens or otherwise have the legal right to live and work in the U.S. No different than any other U.S. airline.

Obviously NAI crews will be governed by EASA regulations, not FAA regulations. And obviously this means no CASS as well. NAI, which is flagged in Ireland, most definitely visits its home country, with flights from Dublin to London, Copenhagen, Helsinki and Oslo (yes - Oslo, NORWAY).

Regarding regulatory oversight - EASA members have the full ability to conduct inspections and issue violations/citations/etc to any EASA airline. NAI would be unable to escape regulatory oversight for numerous reasons: A Spanish, French, or Swedish EASA inspector can conduct a full inspection on an NAI aircraft. NAI headquarters being in Dublin, in under the full authority of the IAA and the IAA can conduct full audits of their operations and paperwork. An IAA inspector can go out anywhere in the system and conduct full inspections. The idea that NAI can escape any regulatory oversight is just downright silly, especially given that it is operating under the bureaucratic mess that is EASA.

If you are going to dislike NAI, do so for legitimate reasons.

That being said, if you wanted to spend the rest of my life and career in the States, I would recommend steering away from Norwegian. Clearly there is enough bad blood that it may very well hurt your future career if NAI is not a long term option. However if you looking to find a way into Europe, and have a way to get an EU/EEA passport or the right to live and work in Europe, NAI might not be a bad foot in the door. Norwegian, like Ryanair, easyJet and WizzAir, is often an entry level job for young European pilots, and about a mid-level job for a more experienced pilot who may be too old for the European legacies.

The Dominican

I give you COPA, Aeromexico, GOL and all other carriers growing with mainline carriers investments taking advantage of all of those points you mentioned with salary rates that make NAI look like a great deal

Follow the laser pointer and keep patching the inflatable rat boyz and gals

Qotsaautopilot

Once again, it's not so much NAI it's what NAI represents and the damage it will do to the earning potential in this career. Flying an airliner is not entry level, especially transatlantic. Would you want your family flown by an entry level crew? Attracting the best and the brightest requires money and it's clear NAI doesn't care about that. And by design their model is going to pressure every other airline to conform just like has already happened in Europe. This is not a career there, it's an ok job. It's infuriating.

50SeatsofGrey

You should apply, you'll love it there.

jcountry

100% true.

jcountry

To the OP.....

Go ahead an apply. I wish you the very best.

Just don't ever ask for any kind of favor from any of us.

Hope you are OK with that money, no work rules, no rest regs-cause it's the best you will ever do.