New Norwegian News
#12
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Announced this afternoon. Most short haul pilot bases in Spain, FCO short haul base, the SWF and PVD 737 bases all closed. Long haul pilot bases in FLL, BKK, and AMS closed as well. The company says most affected crew will be offered transfers to other bases, or to the 787 operation. There will be a reduction in 737 operations, but the 787 operation will continue to expand. No word on if the U.S. based pilots will have other opportunities. Cabin crew bases in JFK, LAX, and FLL are unaffected. This is pouring gasoline on the fire regarding the IAG rumors. It has long been speculated that these are changes requested by IAG as part of the purchase deal.
Sounds like the SWF and PVD crews may have an option at JFK?
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These are not expats. They are pilots working in the US. Keep in mind most airlines have pilots involved in the selection process. Delta uses many line pilots.
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Negative. Regardless of their nominated base, they are “expats”. They are employed and compensated by a foreign entity. They have to obtain a validation, limited in time, on their FAA certificates.
The “Physical Presense Test”, used in determining excluded income earned abroad is clearly an issue for an expat working for a forien entity, who is U.S. based.
Under the physical presence test, a 12-month period can be any period of 12 consecutive months that includes 330 full days. If you qualify under the physical presence test for part of a year, it is important to carefully choose the 12 month period that will allow the maximum exclusion for that year.
This is a reason for many not taking the job with PVD SWF of FLL base. A validation is worthless any place other than the country of issue. The validation is valid for the carrier specific only. No on the other hand, a full EASA ATPL does have value if employment is sort for in countries where an FAA certificate is not accepted.
And your point? Are you suggesting that expats are are black balled from Delta? You are gravely mistaken.
The “Physical Presense Test”, used in determining excluded income earned abroad is clearly an issue for an expat working for a forien entity, who is U.S. based.
Under the physical presence test, a 12-month period can be any period of 12 consecutive months that includes 330 full days. If you qualify under the physical presence test for part of a year, it is important to carefully choose the 12 month period that will allow the maximum exclusion for that year.
This is a reason for many not taking the job with PVD SWF of FLL base. A validation is worthless any place other than the country of issue. The validation is valid for the carrier specific only. No on the other hand, a full EASA ATPL does have value if employment is sort for in countries where an FAA certificate is not accepted.
Keep in mind most airlines have pilots involved in the selection process. Delta uses many line pilots.
Last edited by captjns; 01-16-2019 at 06:56 PM.
#15
"Norwegian says the news has already been shared with its employees and unions. Job transfers to bases in Oslo, Stockholm and Madrid have been offered, as well as opportunities on the airline’s Dreamliner fleet including at New York JFK. "
Sounds like the SWF and PVD crews may have an option at JFK?
Sounds like the SWF and PVD crews may have an option at JFK?
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Negative. Regardless of their nominated base, they are “expats”. They are employed and compensated by a foreign entity. They have to obtain a validation, limited in time, on their FAA certificates.
The “Physical Presense Test”, used in determining excluded income earned abroad is clearly an issue for an expat working for a forien entity, who is U.S. based.
Under the physical presence test, a 12-month period can be any period of 12 consecutive months that includes 330 full days. If you qualify under the physical presence test for part of a year, it is important to carefully choose the 12 month period that will allow the maximum exclusion for that year.
This is a reason for many not taking the job with PVD SWF of FLL base. A validation is worthless any place other than the country of issue. The validation is valid for the carrier specific only. No on the other hand, a full EASA ATPL does have value if employment is sort for in countries where an FAA certificate is not accepted.
And your point? Are you suggesting that expats are are black balled from Delta? You are gravely mistaken.
The “Physical Presense Test”, used in determining excluded income earned abroad is clearly an issue for an expat working for a forien entity, who is U.S. based.
Under the physical presence test, a 12-month period can be any period of 12 consecutive months that includes 330 full days. If you qualify under the physical presence test for part of a year, it is important to carefully choose the 12 month period that will allow the maximum exclusion for that year.
This is a reason for many not taking the job with PVD SWF of FLL base. A validation is worthless any place other than the country of issue. The validation is valid for the carrier specific only. No on the other hand, a full EASA ATPL does have value if employment is sort for in countries where an FAA certificate is not accepted.
And your point? Are you suggesting that expats are are black balled from Delta? You are gravely mistaken.
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How many EAL scabs got through the filter to a legacy? The Norwegian pilots are looked upon the same way. Like it or not the word has been out for a long time and there are too many other candidates to hire that aren’t from Norwegian.
They won’t be told they are not being hired because they are from Norwegian, they just won’t be hired.
They won’t be told they are not being hired because they are from Norwegian, they just won’t be hired.
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How many EAL scabs got through the filter to a legacy? The Norwegian pilots are looked upon the same way. Like it or not the word has been out for a long time and there are too many other candidates to hire that aren’t from Norwegian.
They won’t be told they are not being hired because they are from Norwegian, they just won’t be hired.
They won’t be told they are not being hired because they are from Norwegian, they just won’t be hired.
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