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Old 02-08-2019 | 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Plesae provide proven data to support your claim such as, but not limited to... US carriers going bust... layoffs/furloughs from AA, DAL, UAL, etc.... wage concessions by US pilots.
Norwegian's ticket pricing WELL BELOW their cost has caused US carriers to lower their ticket prices. The impact is that US airlines are less profitable due to the existence of Norwegian.

The direct impact to me is that because my airline was less profitable in 2018 due to Norwegian, my bonus check is smaller.

I assume you're just playing dumb on this issue, as it's very obvious that Norwegian's ticket pricing is depressing other carriers' yields.
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Old 02-08-2019 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Norwegian's ticket pricing WELL BELOW their cost has caused US carriers to lower their ticket prices. The impact is that US airlines are less profitable due to the existence of Norwegian.

The direct impact to me is that because my airline was less profitable in 2018 due to Norwegian, my bonus check is smaller.

I assume you're just playing dumb on this issue, as it's very obvious that Norwegian's ticket pricing is depressing other carriers' yields.
If I was 25 again and I could land a job that would award me a 787 type with pay that satisfies my standards of living I wouldn’t think twice about accepting it. I personally could care less about yours or anyone else’s bonus check. Sorry.
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Old 02-08-2019 | 07:17 AM
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I would say working for Norwegian is on par with having a DUI when it comes to getting on with a legacy in the US.
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Old 02-08-2019 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Norwegian has had a definite negative impact on TATL ticket pricing.
Documentation from a reliable source to cooborate youy statement.

They are selling their tickets at well below cost, in spite of load factors greater than 80%.
Do you object when your airline lowers fares to drive out the competition?

They have more available seats between London and the NYC area than British Airways.
OK Andy... alternative facts are fun... at times. But as the saying goes... Facts are facts...

NAI - KJFK - EGKK 3 nonstop flights (random check).
BA - KJFK - EGLL & EGKK combined - 15 non flights, also random check.

There are 30 nonstop flights to London (EGLL and EGKK)
DAL - 9. UAL 5. AA 16. Not to mention additional flights with transfers too.

Then there are a bunch of TATL flights offered by BA and VA, which is a JV with DAL.

NAI, also, offers additional options to EGKK with transfers.

Passengers don't care that they're in a guppy TATL; Norwegian's loads prove that. All they care about is low ticket prices.
An economy seat in any Boeing product be it a 757, also a narrow body or 777, 787, 744 is crappy at best to say the least. Its the overall service. Foreign carriers outshine US carriers when it come to overall service. I can see why the consumer is going to purchase a product that provides the best bang for the buck.

I cannot believe that you would think that Norwegian doesn't negatively impact other airlines.
United Airlines financial report doesn’t agree with you.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300778886.html

Delta Airlines financial report doesn’t agree with you either.

https://news.delta.com/delta-air-lin...quarter-profit

Even Southwest Airlines says:

Southwest Airlines Reports Fourth Quarter And Annual Profit; 46th Consecutive Year Of Profitability.

Ask management the reason for, as you imparted, under performance as compared to the local competitor?

They're filling their planes but still selling their tickets at a price point where they're losing money on every single passenger. That forces other carriers to lower their ticket prices.
Nothing to see here... US carrier do the same to their competition to eradicate competitor invading their territory.

Because of Norwegian, my bonus is smaller this year. Do I want to see them go out of business? Yes. Thankfully, that should happen when this rights issuance goes poorly.
Don’t blame the competition... blame your management, given stated robust performance in 2018.

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Old 02-08-2019 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Joachim
Are you Israeli?
captjns Israeli?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Old 02-08-2019 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Yes, but you're Horizon Air. Not exactly in the same category as what's being discussed.
Again....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You guys are cracking me up this morning. Now I've got to call IT to get the soda off the computer screen.
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Old 02-08-2019 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Again....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You guys are cracking me up this morning. Now I've got to call IT to get the soda off the computer screen.
Anternate fact... You’re Horizon’s newly appointed D/O.
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Old 02-08-2019 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Anternate fact... You’re Horizon’s newly appointed D/O.
I KNEW the planes outside the office looked different!
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Old 02-09-2019 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stabapch
If I was 25 again and I could land a job that would award me a 787 type with pay that satisfies my standards of living I wouldn’t think twice about accepting it. I personally could care less about yours or anyone else’s bonus check. Sorry.
Lovely scab mentality.
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Old 02-10-2019 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Lovely scab mentality.
Explain “scab mentality” when nobody’s striking... no picket line being crossed. Being a SW nee Air Tran chap the following does not apply his to you...

But... it appears, for the current period, nobody’s livelyhood is in jeopardy. Although, one should be wary of outsourcing in the name of codesharing. Aren’t JVs by US with foreign carriers more of a threat to one’s livelihood than NAIs alleged US invasion?

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