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Old 05-03-2008 | 05:47 AM
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http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/fact...9q2stff0t7thkf

check this out for Lufthansa
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Old 05-06-2008 | 07:55 AM
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Hey O... I still don't understand. Can an american pilot with an ATP apply and be considered for jobs in Europe? I have no ties to Europe, ie. no dual passport. I'm just a regular american who wants out of here! What do I have to do? Thanks
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Old 05-06-2008 | 08:21 AM
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Chick,

It's amazing how this question keeps on getting asked in so many different ways.
I'm sure "O" will chime in too.
To work in Europe flying European registered airplanes you need to have a JAA license (most cases). Which means you need to do the FAA to JAA conversion. In addition, you will need a working permit for the country you choose.
First, the conversion. EXPENSIVE and TIME consuming but can be done.
If you are now in the US, check with Naples Flight Center, they can advise you on the conversion process. There may be other places in the US that can help with the conversion but I don't know them. If you are already overseas (i.e. military stationed overseas) check with the Civil Aviation Authority in the country you are in as to the conversion process.

The working permit. Probably the biggest hurdle. You must look at all the carriers and figure out if the carrier will help or not. (this is usually unlikely) Unless you have a relationship with the carrier already. Perhaps through personal contacts...
Perhaps you can get to Europe doing a different kind of job (get the work permit) then jump ship, in hopes of a smoother process with the work permit renewal. My experience is that the work permit has to be renewed each year.

There is always a possibility of flying a N registered airplane that is already here in Europe. Then of course there would not be a conversion requirement.

Also check with contractors. Parc, Brookefield, Rishworth etc...


There is no clear path to make this happen.

O did I basically cover it?

Good luck,
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Old 05-06-2008 | 11:17 AM
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Hey, thanks for the info. That clears it up... Basically, I'm doomed.
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Old 05-06-2008 | 11:31 AM
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I wouldn't say doomed. I just think you need to work out a clever plan and be prepared for some major work.

It is possible, just depends on how bad you want it..and how much you time and money you can afford to spend.

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Old 05-06-2008 | 02:11 PM
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Yo chick and Lifter,

You basically covered it all .. BUT .. just to into a bit more detail ...
Chick what are your times? PIC times?

You might be able to convert your license without doing all 14 atpl exams and flying.

Once we get that info im sure lifter and I could help you more.

Just for your information Ryanair is one of the airlines that will sponsor you!
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Old 05-06-2008 | 03:24 PM
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Total: 10100
pic jet: 2810
pic t/p: 1260
sic jet: 3200
sic t/p: 2610

Thanks for all your help on this! I've been racking my brain all day, & sending emails and not getting any answers... Thanks
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Old 05-06-2008 | 04:27 PM
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Your PIC times look good, you will probably have to only take 2 exams, yes 2 out of the 14. Air law and Human Performance.

In what planes are the PIC times?
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Old 05-06-2008 | 04:48 PM
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CL-65 (CRJ-200) & DO-328... That's sounding doable. Thanks again ...All I have to do is find a Russian chick to marry, but is it worth it?.... Yeah!

Last edited by chicken; 05-06-2008 at 04:51 PM. Reason: Russian
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Old 05-06-2008 | 10:07 PM
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O, Chick,

I have heard of this 2 test requirement but have not personally seen it in practice. I believe this is country/CAA dependent as each has their own requirements. I can only speak for the Czech CAA a few years ago and all 14 test were required by them no matter what your experience was. (We had a 14,000hr Qantas guy in class taking all 14 exams)

I've heard about Ryan Air sponsoring folks but not much info. I would suggest getting on the Flight International webpage www.flightglobal.com then click on jobs. and search for Ryan Air and when/where they have their next pilot call/info day and just go to it and ask questions.

Chick,
As for marrying the Russian chick , not sure how much that would help, She may be smokin' but may not have an EU passport either... Need to find a German, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, or Greek etc...chick

I would still at least call Naples Flight Center to ask about exam process...

What do think O?

Lifter
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