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Old 12-16-2017, 06:27 AM
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I'm sure on-time performance is important.. but with the clients being able to dictate to a degree when they leave… I'm assuming there's much less stress as far as that's concerned. If an airline departure is 10am, w/ door closure at 9:50am.. you better be out on time or have to answer to whether it was gate agent, mechanical, ramp crew, etc.. as to the reason for delay.
I'm assuming that if client A wants the plane at 10am, but they don't who until 10:30 and take their merry time getting on board.. unless the plane is supposed to do a "quick turn" at the destination, there's no real pressure to get them going (?)
Also.. I'm assuming that the clients' comfort is paramount.. meaning, if it's 110 in Phoenix, you run the APU and get that airplane cooled down.. not like airliners that even in extreme conditions, only fire the APU up at the last possible moment, and shut it down as soon as possible.. and single engine taxi, etc… fuel savings is important but so is comfort - does a place like XO get on you about that or do they encourage you to do whatever it takes to assure comfort? I mean, these clients are paying thousands of dollars for their transportation…….
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:31 PM
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Im sure most major airlines have similar formal operational priorities. And pax service/comfort is typically always ahead of economy.

Only makes sense when you consider unlike the 'thousands' paid by fractional clients the ticket revenue per leg on even a narrow body at a major probably tops $50K on an avg domestic leg.

Only more so in the age of youtube and twitter.

Just wondering? Are you expected to load/unload bags and clean the plane/lavs on those quick turn arounds at your regional?
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Old 12-18-2017, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold View Post
I'm sure on-time performance is important.. but with the clients being able to dictate to a degree when they leave… I'm assuming there's much less stress as far as that's concerned. If an airline departure is 10am, w/ door closure at 9:50am.. you better be out on time or have to answer to whether it was gate agent, mechanical, ramp crew, etc.. as to the reason for delay.
I'm assuming that if client A wants the plane at 10am, but they don't who until 10:30 and take their merry time getting on board.. unless the plane is supposed to do a "quick turn" at the destination, there's no real pressure to get them going (?)
Also.. I'm assuming that the clients' comfort is paramount.. meaning, if it's 110 in Phoenix, you run the APU and get that airplane cooled down.. not like airliners that even in extreme conditions, only fire the APU up at the last possible moment, and shut it down as soon as possible.. and single engine taxi, etc… fuel savings is important but so is comfort - does a place like XO get on you about that or do they encourage you to do whatever it takes to assure comfort? I mean, these clients are paying thousands of dollars for their transportation…….
Client comfort is paramount. With out providing the best service possible we would be out of business. Most of us here are great about client comfort and making sure needs are met. If you don’t like briefing passengers, offering a water (with a cup or glass of ice and a beverage napkin), arranging catering and making sure it is correct, schedule changes, calling in range for transportation as well as loading and unloading lots of heavy bags then don’t come here. Please.
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Old 12-19-2017, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bjtdrvr View Post
Of the fractional/135 world has no idea of where they will be at the end of the current day let alone next week! . Unless they will be on vacation at Disney! If you are in a 121 situation already you should read up on the whole Netjets page about how life is on the road. I am sure xo jet is about the same but with less pay and benefits!!!!!!
You are correct that the flying is very similar to Net Jets. However, XO has some major perks that increase QOL. Net Jets has their pilots sitting standby at the airport ALL THE TIME. When your last leg is done or your aircraft breaks at XO, you go straight to the hotel, with a rental car if desired (no rentals at NJ), even if you've only worked 2 hours.

You'll still be on standby until your duty day is up, but you'll be comfortable.

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Old 12-19-2017, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bjtdrvr View Post
Of the fractional/135 world has no idea of where they will be at the end of the current day let alone next week! . Unless they will be on vacation at Disney! If you are in a 121 situation already you should read up on the whole Netjets page about how life is on the road. I am sure xo jet is about the same but with less pay and benefits!!!!!!
Net Jets has a better pay scale and benefits. However, Net Jets takes at least 10-15 years for an upgrade. XO is currently 1.5-2 years.
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