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12-03-2018, 03:04 AM
#331
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 216
Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem
Is the pay scale on APC still accurate? Can one still count on making 62k for. 7/7 schedule? It makes sense that the 76-day schedule would pay more, and 80k vs 60k is a big difference. When working the 76 day what would be the average rotation? I know it can slide and as I understand it’s a PBS style schedule but do you ever get only 1 or 2 days off at a time similar to the airlines? That right now is my biggest issue with 121 schedules. Any time off that is less than 3 days between trips feels like a waste, especially when it’s 4-6 on with only 2 off like a typical reserve schedule
As to the pay, you would actually make a bit more than those tables. All new hires start on the CC72 pay for at least a couple months and have the ability to stay on it longer if they want. Then, overtime and holidays seem to add an average of 8-12% to total income. If the new contract goes through, that will likely go up a good bit for a new hire.
12-03-2018, 05:19 AM
#332
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 350
NetJets year one base pay of 12/21/18;
CC 52 (13 work days/month) $60,623
CC 60/ 7&7 (15/15.2 work days/month) $63,814
CC 72 (18 work days/month) $77,853
CC 76 (19 work days/month) $82,958
This does not reflect overtime, holiday pay, after midnight return or anything in IBI 2018 if ratified.
CC 52 (13 work days/month) $60,623
CC 60/ 7&7 (15/15.2 work days/month) $63,814
CC 72 (18 work days/month) $77,853
CC 76 (19 work days/month) $82,958
This does not reflect overtime, holiday pay, after midnight return or anything in IBI 2018 if ratified.
12-03-2018, 01:06 PM
#333
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 95
Originally Posted by CA1900
You can look at it that way, but it's disingenuous. A week of 11-hour days is 77 hours, which is what most of the world works in two weeks. You're working twice as hard while at work in order to get that week off.
12-03-2018, 02:34 PM
#335
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Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 443
Originally Posted by CA1900
You can look at it that way, but it's disingenuous. A week of 11-hour days is 77 hours, which is what most of the world works in two weeks. You're working twice as hard while at work in order to get that week off.
12-03-2018, 02:47 PM
#336
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 825
Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou
😂😂😂 This is a horrible response.
I'm now a junior pilot at a major, working 14 days a month, comprising about 105 duty hours. It's typically 3-on/4-off, but if I want to reshuffle it and work 6-on/8-off, I can do that.
There are things I miss about NJA, but packing two full work weeks into a 7-day tour is not one of them.
I've done both jobs, and was at NJA for a long time. NJA guys put in a lot of hours at work for their money. I don't know a single pilot there who would disagree.
12-03-2018, 03:40 PM
#337
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Posts: 443
Originally Posted by CA1900
It's honest. A pilot on the 7/7 is working about 167 duty hours a month, and that's generously assuming only 11 hour days -- mine were generally 12+ in the Excel.
I'm now a junior pilot at a major, working 14 days a month, comprising about 105 duty hours. It's typically 3-on/4-off, but if I want to reshuffle it and work 6-on/8-off, I can do that.
There are things I miss about NJA, but packing two full work weeks into a 7-day tour is not one of them.
I've done both jobs, and was at NJA for a long time. NJA guys put in a lot of hours at work for their money. I don't know a single pilot there who would disagree.
I'm now a junior pilot at a major, working 14 days a month, comprising about 105 duty hours. It's typically 3-on/4-off, but if I want to reshuffle it and work 6-on/8-off, I can do that.
There are things I miss about NJA, but packing two full work weeks into a 7-day tour is not one of them.
I've done both jobs, and was at NJA for a long time. NJA guys put in a lot of hours at work for their money. I don't know a single pilot there who would disagree.
12-03-2018, 07:41 PM
#338
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Weekends off
Posts: 398
Originally Posted by CA1900
It's honest. A pilot on the 7/7 is working about 167 duty hours a month, and that's generously assuming only 11 hour days -- mine were generally 12+ in the Excel.
I'm now a junior pilot at a major, working 14 days a month, comprising about 105 duty hours. It's typically 3-on/4-off, but if I want to reshuffle it and work 6-on/8-off, I can do that.
There are things I miss about NJA, but packing two full work weeks into a 7-day tour is not one of them.
I've done both jobs, and was at NJA for a long time. NJA guys put in a lot of hours at work for their money. I don't know a single pilot there who would disagree.
I'm now a junior pilot at a major, working 14 days a month, comprising about 105 duty hours. It's typically 3-on/4-off, but if I want to reshuffle it and work 6-on/8-off, I can do that.
There are things I miss about NJA, but packing two full work weeks into a 7-day tour is not one of them.
I've done both jobs, and was at NJA for a long time. NJA guys put in a lot of hours at work for their money. I don't know a single pilot there who would disagree.
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