Stop calling it 121
11-21-2019, 07:23 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by SrfNFly227
I'd be curious how many that are leaving are retired 121 who are finally done with the career vs younger guys who are moving on to something else.
11-21-2019, 07:41 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by DH2time
I would argue many reasons.
One is QOL is subjective but is so much better when one feels they have control over when and where they work. You need to be at football game to coach the kids at at 1800 you can arrange that at a 121 scheduled carrier, no such luck at NJA.
Two, the pay as a senior FO at NK is, talking to the FOs that jumpseat with us, above that of 7/7 pay at NJA for a captain for same amount of days.
Three, Retirement income is a 100 times better at all majors than at NJA. That’s figuratively not literally please...
Four, planning your career progression is easier at a 121 carrier as you know at age 65/67 they punch out while at NJA you got gunners approaching 85 still chugging along.
Lastly, off topic but on the major forums you rarely run into cheerleaders for the company that try to blow sunshine up your butt. It’s honest discussion about the good and the bad about a company. Once again it’s an honest discussion and no lies.
Take care brah!
One is QOL is subjective but is so much better when one feels they have control over when and where they work. You need to be at football game to coach the kids at at 1800 you can arrange that at a 121 scheduled carrier, no such luck at NJA.
Two, the pay as a senior FO at NK is, talking to the FOs that jumpseat with us, above that of 7/7 pay at NJA for a captain for same amount of days.
Three, Retirement income is a 100 times better at all majors than at NJA. That’s figuratively not literally please...
Four, planning your career progression is easier at a 121 carrier as you know at age 65/67 they punch out while at NJA you got gunners approaching 85 still chugging along.
Lastly, off topic but on the major forums you rarely run into cheerleaders for the company that try to blow sunshine up your butt. It’s honest discussion about the good and the bad about a company. Once again it’s an honest discussion and no lies.
Take care brah!
11-21-2019, 07:44 AM
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I am curious how AQP will lower upgrade time. Does not AQP reduce the overall training footprint, requiring fewer pilots to do the same work?
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11-21-2019, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dutchroller
I am curious how AQP will lower upgrade time. Does not AQP reduce the overall training footprint, requiring fewer pilots to do the same work?
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11-21-2019, 08:00 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by Twofiddyatten
Upgrades are going to be 3 years at NJA, just keeping waiting 🤣🤣🤣
11-21-2019, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dutchroller
I am curious how AQP will lower upgrade time. Does not AQP reduce the overall training footprint, requiring fewer pilots to do the same work?
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That’s exactly how upgrades will drop from 13 years to 6-7.
Reallocation of simulator capacity.
11-21-2019, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SrfNFly227
He didn't say 3 years. He said within 3 years from now for someone hired in 2015.
Any anyone leaving for greener pastures prior to that... well, hopefully they left because they KNEW it was for the right reasons.
You can’t have it both ways.
Upgrade coming down and pay/retirement going up are great trends.
11-21-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Retractable
That’s exactly how upgrades will drop from 13 years to 6-7.
Reallocation of simulator capacity.
Reallocation of simulator capacity.
AQP means less time in the school house which means fewer pilots required. How does that mean more captains required?
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11-21-2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dutchroller
AQP means less time in the school house which means fewer pilots required. How does that mean more captains required?
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11-21-2019, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dutchroller
AQP means less time in the school house which means fewer pilots required. How does that mean more captains required?
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Retractable is pushing the kool aid hard these days. Take everything he says with a HUGE grain of salt.
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