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Old 10-21-2017, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Toonces View Post
I think that is an overstatement. It would be more correct to say they have underreacted to the retention issue. Plus, that right hand man is heading to southwest. Kind of a no brainer.


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Their only reaction at all was the bogus bonus contract.
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:40 PM
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Their only reaction at all was the bogus bonus contract.

It’s literally free money. I cannot see why anyone would say no to free money.

However, since you were at the company for a minute, you’d know this is just one effort. There have been other changes with the intended effect of slowing attrition. Overall, it’s underwhelming.


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Old 10-22-2017, 03:27 AM
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It’s literally free money. I cannot see why anyone would say no to free money.

However, since you were at the company for a minute, you’d know this is just one effort. There have been other changes with the intended effect of slowing attrition. Overall, it’s underwhelming.


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It's not free money, it's money in exchange for committing yourself to the company longer in a market where it really doesn't make sense to tie yourself down. It's an even worse deal for those about to upgrade to the jet because they'll take a pay cut after upgrade. There's a reason even some of the 8+ year people didn't sign.
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Old 10-22-2017, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon View Post
It's not free money, it's money in exchange for committing yourself to the company longer in a market where it really doesn't make sense to tie yourself down. It's an even worse deal for those about to upgrade to the jet because they'll take a pay cut after upgrade. There's a reason even some of the 8+ year people didn't sign.

It is free money. You misunderstood the contract. There is zero downside. You are not tied down to anything.



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Old 10-22-2017, 07:19 AM
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It is free money. You misunderstood the contract. There is zero downside. You are not tied down to anything.



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If you leave before the contract is up you have to repay the bonus. If you upgrade to the jet you're on a reduced pay scale until the contract runs out. That's not free money.
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Old 10-22-2017, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon View Post
If you leave before the contract is up you have to repay the bonus. If you upgrade to the jet you're on a reduced pay scale until the contract runs out. That's not free money.

If you leave before the contract is up, you pay it back pro-rated. So it’s like a raise that you volunteer for. Free money.

If you upgrade to the jet, you will not take a pay cut. You will get what a jet pilot is paid minus the bonus. So then you add in the bonus and you get what a jet pilot would have been paid anyway. And before you upgrade, you are getting the bonus as a PC-12 Captain. Like a raise. Free money.


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Old 10-22-2017, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Toonces View Post
If you leave before the contract is up, you pay it back pro-rated. So it’s like a raise that you volunteer for. Free money.

If you upgrade to the jet, you will not take a pay cut. You will get what a jet pilot is paid minus the bonus. So then you add in the bonus and you get what a jet pilot would have been paid anyway. And before you upgrade, you are getting the bonus as a PC-12 Captain. Like a raise. Free money.


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You and I will likely never agree on what "free" means.
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Old 10-23-2017, 10:49 AM
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When, typically, are the classes held? I confirmed with HR before accepting an invitation to interview that while they are looking for winter 2018 right now, I would be unavailable until May 2018. I was informed

You could begin the application process now, and then if you were offered a class date it can be at a later slot
However, I do know that they would not likely hold classes in the summer because that is the busy season. My hope was a class in early May as soon as I graduate, but I'm afraid of not getting one until next October or worse.
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:25 AM
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However, I do know that they would not likely hold classes in the summer because that is the busy season. My hope was a class in early May as soon as I graduate, but I'm afraid of not getting one until next October or worse.

We will hold classes in the summer. Probably only one because it is busy as you mentioned.




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Old 10-24-2017, 04:36 PM
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We will hold classes in the summer. Probably only one because it is busy as you mentioned.




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Do you know when people interviewing in November could expect to have their class date? I know they've had delays before.
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