Flyer117

I see what you’re saying, but when you say I’m “just a passenger” and that it’s only a cool experience that counts for nothing, you’re totally wrong. There’s a difference between sitting in the right seat playing with your thumbs, swinging gear and being trained on the aircraft, flying every other leg and heavily involved in flight planning and decision making. I guarantee I am more qualified for a position as an SIC than a 1000 hour CFI who burns holes in the sky all day doing steep turns and stalls. Sure, my time doesn’t count but I’ve already interviewed at multiple places where my experience as SIC was discussed heavily.

BartMancuso

Only list the legal flight time that you have. Then under experience where you would normally list past jobs, include your apprenticeship (or whatever you want to call it) with a brief description and mention those hours there. I wouldn't even put the exact time, I'd just put "175+ hours". Make it look the same as you would list community service or something similar. Your resume should not ever anywhere combine these two numbers into one. You do not have 1000+ hours, no matter how valuable you think those extra hours are. I do agree that you have gained more experience than just being a passenger, but the FAA doesn't see it that way, and you want an interviewer to see that you are representing yourself in the same matter. The interviewers will see this "apprenticeship" on your resume and surely ask about it. Then you get to tell your story about how valuable that experience was to you and your professional development as a corporate pilot.

I think doing it this way, nobody could by any stretch think you are being misleading about your actual legal flight experience, while still giving you an opportunity to talk about job related experience that has value to you.

Flyer117

Thank you, this is the advice I was looking for. I appreciate your honesty and I will proceed this way,

NYgearjunkie

Hows that new company paid insurance looking? I heard rumors it's less than stellar?

phl08

I applied for a SIC PC12 position in mid-May 2022. Got a few emails for additional information in the weeks that followed. Heard nothing until a call today - nearly 6 months later. At time of application I was ~1350 TT, COMM/SEL/MEL/CFI and about 25 of those hours were multi (not relevant for the PC12 anyway). They left me a voice mail and I have not called back yet. I've gone through some of the 280+ pages of this thread. Trying to understand how the 8/6 schedule works for a SIC in a remote city. My domicile would be PHL since it is 30 minutes from home.

How often might I be starting/ending 8 day trips at my own domicile without having to airline commute?

I'm now closer to 1400TT and would obviously hit 1500 pretty quick once I started flying. Since I would be fairly new to the PC12 at that point, when would one expect Captain upgrade to occur? At what point would they offer ATP-CTP?

BartMancuso

PHL base will usually airline day 1 and 8, but that's not a given. You might luck out and get some planes coming through the PHL area. Meaning you could get a rental car to drive to LOM or PNE, or even hitch a ride in the back of a PS aircraft. You just never know.

Captain upgrade will really depend on you. If you come and pick up our operation really quick and decide you're ready, put in for it. Once you have the 1500 hrs I'd say the company is looking at you to upgrade shortly after. Right now, when people are ready, they are given the chance.

Your ATP course will be just before your upgrade into the jet, so you'd have at least 3+ years at this point before that happens.

BartMancuso

Less than stellar is one way to put it. For most pilots, married with kids, it sucks. Most people I know are sticking with our original plan and just paying our own premiums.

JayMahon

Applied at 550 tt. Updated at 750, 850 and just recently updated at 1000 hours. Have everything else required, as well as the "preferred" things. Currently working at a 135 operation in Alaska flying VFR.

Any ideas on how to get fast tracked into their next training class? Feel free to PM me.

Flying PC-12s around the US and Caribbean is exactly the kind of flying I wanted to get into when I got started. I think PlaneSense is a solid match.

tanker

Do you have an address that is within 100 miles.of one of their bases. If not the fact that you have an Alaskan address might be the issue so let them know you would be moving to a base Also you just updated with 1000 hours and that is what they are currently looking for in order to have pilots upgrade quickly.

JayMahon

Though I work in AK, I reside in Virginia. My address is within range of 2 PlaneSense bases, so that's not the problem. I guess it's just a waiting game until they give me a call.

I just wish there was a way to jump ahead.