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Old 10-02-2007, 09:22 AM   #11  
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How I am reading it, only the third column applies to FO's in the >40K category. The first two columns apply to PIC's and FO's in <40K.

I may be wrong, as it happens often enough.

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Okay- thanks. For some reason I still had the off reserve/on reserve pay tables that I've seen before in my mind.

Good on you guys for continually RAISING the bar.

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Old 10-02-2007, 09:31 AM   #12  
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And, does this mean that new hires MUST work the 18 day schedule.... no option for 7/7? That would be a downer for us guys looking for stability in schedule.
That would be goofy, you're on the reserve until released to IOE. A 4 year 7&7 fo that that is awarded capt also goes to the reserve schedule and pay $122,147. until training is completed than can go back to 7&7 if desired.
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That would be goofy, you're on the reserve until released to IOE. A 4 year 7&7 fo that that is awarded capt also goes to the reserve schedule and pay $122,147. until training is completed than can go back to 7&7 if desired.
A few people may also be able to bid 15-Flex, if their training events lined up nicely with the annual bid.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:24 AM   #14  
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Here's one question: What are the chances of the "proposed bases" happening? The wife has thrown out the anchor here at IAD, but it's on the list. Even if they decided on DCA or BWI, I'm still within 2 hours. When will you know for sure?

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Old 10-02-2007, 10:38 AM   #15  
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Here's one question: What are the chances of the "proposed bases" happening? The wife has thrown out the anchor here at IAD, but it's on the list. Even if they decided on DCA or BWI, I'm still within 2 hours. When will you know for sure?

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It's all or nothing on the vote. Work rules, basing, pay, everything. If it gets voted in, it's in place until at least mid-2013 unless both company and union agree to amend. If it gets voted down, we revert to our current contract at least until late 2010.

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Old 10-02-2007, 10:49 AM   #16  
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OK, thanks for the info. I'd be curious to hear what the sentiment is. The pay plus the new bases got my attention, and I'm probably on the higher end of folks you would see as new hires (10k, 6k pic jet). Hope it all works out. Thanks again for the info.

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Old 10-02-2007, 11:01 AM   #17  
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Okay- thanks. For some reason I still had the off reserve/on reserve pay tables that I've seen before in my mind.

Good on you guys for continually RAISING the bar.

~J
Agreed with Josh. Assuming this is final, the rest of the industry will have to increase their packages to at least some level in order to stay competitive. With a shrinking supply of new pilots on the horizon....Should mean good things for the future!

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Old 10-02-2007, 01:42 PM   #18  
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Here's one question: What are the chances of the "proposed bases" happening? The wife has thrown out the anchor here at IAD, but it's on the list. Even if they decided on DCA or BWI, I'm still within 2 hours. When will you know for sure?

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You should go fly for UA if you want IAD.
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So why is NetJet's proposing this TA?? I know the contract has not reached its ammendable date. Is NetJet's offering this in return for something else? If so, what.

FYI, I am pretty sure that almost all of NetJet's airplanes are under 40,000lbs. I checked the Citation X, Citation Sovereign, Falcon 2000, Falcon 2000EX, and the G200, and they are all about 35,000lbs. Is the only aircraft over 40,000lbs the BBJ?

Thanks. The package looks great and I hope it passes (assuming there are no crazy drawbacks that I have yet to hear about).

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Old 10-02-2007, 10:17 PM   #20  
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OK, thanks for the info. I'd be curious to hear what the sentiment is. The pay plus the new bases got my attention, and I'm probably on the higher end of folks you would see as new hires (10k, 6k pic jet). Hope it all works out. Thanks again for the info.

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The sentiment in general seems to be: Anybody hired since Nov 2005 ratification of the last contract will vote for it, many of the "pre-rat" people will vote against it. The "NO" voters seem to feel too much will be given up down the line including extending the amendable date, scheduling, home basing, sick leave versus personal time off (PTO), and other issues. The desperately needed pay increase and improved basing for newbies may go by the boards until 2010. As the man said: "Caveat emptor." (that's "buyer beware" for those edumacated in public school).
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