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#296
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True it is more than a regional. 1st year.. I'd say that years 2-?? are about the same as a regional give or take a couple of thousand (small potatoes).. I made around $45K my 2nd -5th year at regional "x" back before I decided to leave...The pay scale closely resembles a regional in that it tops out at $48K much like regionals top out at say $42/hr after a couple of years..
But you have less control over your schedule, work more days and have to be on the road for longer periods of time. Have to do more work concerning loading bags and cleaning planes (like every fractiona). Basically have more responsibilty for the passengers comfort. For below average pay....
And as little as their worth, no non-rev priviledges......
If it came to a regional or Avantair, it would be a tough decision. Based purely on the pay and amount of work for the same pay...
No doubt QOL is better at all fractionals than regionals.. I'll give Avantair that much. And until I saw the pay for SIC's I would have considered applying (and probably not getting an interview anyways)
Not trying to bring Avantair down, but you'all need to be making more. Just an observation.
#297
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I guess it depends on one's experience level. For me I'm not going back to making $35K. (I've already done the light twin making peanuts, RJ, making 35K jobs....for newer guys this is a good opportunity in the beginning... But eventually when life starts kicking in you'll want to make more regardless of equipment).
That light twin is bringing in more revenue per hour than any regional. But the pilots are making comparatively less.
That light twin is bringing in more revenue per hour than any regional. But the pilots are making comparatively less.
#298
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Joined APC: May 2006
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Could you please identify the regional that has a 7 on 7 off schedule? Even if you discount the 5% of Avantair pilots who can't hold that schedule, which regional can match 8 on and 6 off that the rest enjoy?
Seriously. Don't the best of the best offer 10 days off per month to start? That's a bunch of 5 ons and 3 offs with commuting on the pilots time. Say what you want but it's nothing like "regionals".
Go do a stint at Avantair for a year, quit and go to RAH or TSA or whoever you thinks rocks the regional world. Tell us what you think then.
By the way, our new FO pay is in the process of being revamped. It's low, but we are stuck in between a culture of one year upgrades and a crap economy. Maybe you could start an airline that's perfect so we could all apply?
Seriously. Don't the best of the best offer 10 days off per month to start? That's a bunch of 5 ons and 3 offs with commuting on the pilots time. Say what you want but it's nothing like "regionals".
Go do a stint at Avantair for a year, quit and go to RAH or TSA or whoever you thinks rocks the regional world. Tell us what you think then.
By the way, our new FO pay is in the process of being revamped. It's low, but we are stuck in between a culture of one year upgrades and a crap economy. Maybe you could start an airline that's perfect so we could all apply?
#299
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
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First year pay at Avantair is low yes, and if you choose the 8/6 starting pay is 40K. Yr 2 is 48K and by year 3 you are mid 50's. By that time you should be upgrading and go straight to that year Capt pay 80+k. I think by year 5 or 6 it is 6 figures. I saw this new payscale when I interviewed.
#300
New payscale? You mean the one that includes the extra days you work at the pay you receive for those days? Or something entirely different that is "in the works" as Glasss claims? I have heard no rumors of a change in pay, other than the "new" fancy, you-get-paid-xyz-for-the-days-over-7-that-you-work payscale.
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