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03-01-2012 | 05:19 PM
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I have heard that airline time is frowned upon by corporate outfits.
I did 6yrs at Eagle, 2 1/2 at 91 Corporate and now 2 weeks and lovin it at EAS.
DirtJunky,
Get your app in and you won't regret it!
Good Luck
03-03-2012 | 05:39 PM
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Have schedules improved at EAS?
Can anyone update us on the most recent schedules for EAS pilots? I recall hearing horror stories in the past about lack of days off per month. I think someone said he was "on call" 28 days in one 31 day month (not sure if that was accurate). Obviously some months will be busier than others (i.e., Thanksgiving through New Years).
What can someone expect in terms of hard days off per month? How consistent are the hard days off? How many days do you typically fly per month on average? Not sure if it applies to EAS, but I have heard terrible stories about pilots at certain operators pressured to feel they have to be "team players" and be available 20+ days per month... That would be difficult to plan any family activities or just to wind down and decompress after longer trips.
Lastly, are most pilots nowadays typed/trained on more than one aircraft at EAS? So, if you get hired onto the Phenom 300, will you also fly the Phenom 100 or the KA350? How often are people dedicated to just one specific fleet?
Thanks for any updates - and PMs are welcome.
What can someone expect in terms of hard days off per month? How consistent are the hard days off? How many days do you typically fly per month on average? Not sure if it applies to EAS, but I have heard terrible stories about pilots at certain operators pressured to feel they have to be "team players" and be available 20+ days per month... That would be difficult to plan any family activities or just to wind down and decompress after longer trips.
Lastly, are most pilots nowadays typed/trained on more than one aircraft at EAS? So, if you get hired onto the Phenom 300, will you also fly the Phenom 100 or the KA350? How often are people dedicated to just one specific fleet?
Thanks for any updates - and PMs are welcome.
03-04-2012 | 08:15 PM
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MMMmmmkay Lumberg,
Let take these one at time......
They are running a 12 on 3 off sked. That means 12 days of scheduled and on call flying. 12 days of out n backs, 2 days and a few longer trips sometimes. It DOES NOT mean a 12 day trip away from home.
The 3 days off are hard days off. Simple math reveals that two cycles of 12/3 equals a month. Therfore you will have 24 days of scheduled and on call.....and 6 hard days off.
NOW....before anyone has a coronary....EAS targets to work us 18-20 days a month. Any work beyond 20 days/or on a hard day off(voluntary) gets a $450 bill per day in your pocket.
As in any business or industry!
Refer to above.......I just finished my checkride and my schedule shows my days off for the next year. Every 12 days there is another set of 3 days.
18-20 is what EAS shoots for.
There are horror stories everywhere. EAS has taken a turn upwards since some new faces arrived in Mgnt. They know that 20+ is gonna burn out the pilots and they"ll bail....also it cost them $$$ at 450/day per pilot.
They used to have guys on 3+ airframes. They are phasing out that practice. I for example will fly the 100 and 300. There are many who fly the 300 and C90 or 350. They really don't want you qual'd on more than 2 airframes.
Your welcome and Good Luck!!
Let take these one at time......
Can anyone update us on the most recent schedules for EAS pilots? I recall hearing horror stories in the past about lack of days off per month. I think someone said he was "on call" 28 days in one 31 day month (not sure if that was accurate).
The 3 days off are hard days off. Simple math reveals that two cycles of 12/3 equals a month. Therfore you will have 24 days of scheduled and on call.....and 6 hard days off.
NOW....before anyone has a coronary....EAS targets to work us 18-20 days a month. Any work beyond 20 days/or on a hard day off(voluntary) gets a $450 bill per day in your pocket.
Obviously some months will be busier than others (i.e., Thanksgiving through New Years).
What can someone expect in terms of hard days off per month? How consistent are the hard days off?
How many days do you typically fly per month on average?
Not sure if it applies to EAS, but I have heard terrible stories about pilots at certain operators pressured to feel they have to be "team players" and be available 20+ days per month... That would be difficult to plan any family activities or just to wind down and decompress after longer trips.
Lastly, are most pilots nowadays typed/trained on more than one aircraft at EAS? So, if you get hired onto the Phenom 300, will you also fly the Phenom 100 or the KA350? How often are people dedicated to just one specific fleet?
Thanks for any updates - and PMs are welcome.
03-05-2012 | 09:10 AM
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MMMmmmkay Lumberg,
Let take these one at time......
They are running a 12 on 3 off sked. That means 12 days of scheduled and on call flying. 12 days of out n backs, 2 days and a few longer trips sometimes. It DOES NOT mean a 12 day trip away from home.
The 3 days off are hard days off. Simple math reveals that two cycles of 12/3 equals a month. Therfore you will have 24 days of scheduled and on call.....and 6 hard days off.
NOW....before anyone has a coronary....EAS targets to work us 18-20 days a month. Any work beyond 20 days/or on a hard day off(voluntary) gets a $450 bill per day in your pocket.
As in any business or industry!
Refer to above.......I just finished my checkride and my schedule shows my days off for the next year. Every 12 days there is another set of 3 days.
18-20 is what EAS shoots for.
There are horror stories everywhere. EAS has taken a turn upwards since some new faces arrived in Mgnt. They know that 20+ is gonna burn out the pilots and they"ll bail....also it cost them $$$ at 450/day per pilot.
They used to have guys on 3+ airframes. They are phasing out that practice. I for example will fly the 100 and 300. There are many who fly the 300 and C90 or 350. They really don't want you qual'd on more than 2 airframes.
Your welcome and Good Luck!!
Let take these one at time......
They are running a 12 on 3 off sked. That means 12 days of scheduled and on call flying. 12 days of out n backs, 2 days and a few longer trips sometimes. It DOES NOT mean a 12 day trip away from home.
The 3 days off are hard days off. Simple math reveals that two cycles of 12/3 equals a month. Therfore you will have 24 days of scheduled and on call.....and 6 hard days off.
NOW....before anyone has a coronary....EAS targets to work us 18-20 days a month. Any work beyond 20 days/or on a hard day off(voluntary) gets a $450 bill per day in your pocket.
As in any business or industry!
Refer to above.......I just finished my checkride and my schedule shows my days off for the next year. Every 12 days there is another set of 3 days.
18-20 is what EAS shoots for.
There are horror stories everywhere. EAS has taken a turn upwards since some new faces arrived in Mgnt. They know that 20+ is gonna burn out the pilots and they"ll bail....also it cost them $$$ at 450/day per pilot.
They used to have guys on 3+ airframes. They are phasing out that practice. I for example will fly the 100 and 300. There are many who fly the 300 and C90 or 350. They really don't want you qual'd on more than 2 airframes.
Your welcome and Good Luck!!
Ry.. I knew there was something I liked about you. I don't have to do as much typing on APF since you've been around
Leaves more time for us to have a beer at Fred's. 
03-05-2012 | 09:14 AM
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Unless you have some very, very strong internal recommendations, 500TT as an F/O is a little low. Most of our First Officers come in with at least 1,500 hours, because the company would like to put them in a position within 1-2 years where they can upgrade to Captain. The lowest "time range" that our CP will authorize an upgrade is around 2,000 hours total time.. and most folks with that amount of time upgrade in the C90B first. They look for 2,500-3,000 for King Air 350 Captains, and Phenom 100 captains. Now, this is of course treated on a case-to-case basis.. but generally what I just stated is followed.
-MiG
03-05-2012 | 07:51 PM
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