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03-21-2018 | 07:42 PM

#1281

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Originally Posted by CantStayAway

ATP minimums now for hiring! We're competing with Great Lakes, Silver, and Mesa for new hires now. Why go to Silver to get experience to flow up to Frontier when you can go straight to Frontier with the same resume? 😂

Let's hope this contract gets done quickly so that we're at least able to attract pilots with turbine experience. Seminole to Airbus is a pretty big jump. Captains will all effectively be check airman.

How long before signing bonuses are implemented?

Where do you see that ?

03-21-2018 | 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax757

Where do you see that ?

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Preferred Minimums:

2500 hours total time
750 hours multi-engine fixed wing*¹
500 hours pilot in command (PIC)*²
500 hours jet/turbo-prop

This is straight from the Frontier site...

03-21-2018 | 08:59 PM

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2500 is preferred minimums, they’ll take guys as low as 1500 at the meet and greets but whether they hire them is another story.

03-22-2018 | 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by madmax757

Where do you see that ?

It was posted on Facebook.

03-22-2018 | 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CantStayAway

How long before signing bonuses are implemented?

I don't think they can't do that without a side letter with the union.
Otherwise it's a violation of the CBA. Not like that would stop them from trying though.

03-22-2018 | 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetspeed

I don't think they can't do that without a side letter with the union.
Otherwise it's a violation of the CBA. Not like that would stop them from trying though.

I do not know if there is anything in our contract preventing signing bonuses, but I do know that the unions at all the regional airlines tried to prevent signing bonuses and they all failed to stop them. I think ever single regional in the country has some version of a signing bonus.

03-22-2018 | 07:02 AM

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CantStayAway

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Originally Posted by Aero1900

This. Including ALPA. If the CBA doesn't explicitly prohibit it (our does not) then it can be (and has been) done.

03-22-2018 | 07:04 AM

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It was posted on Facebook.

The aero crew solutions fb post? The ATP minimum comment was by an unknown person there. I wouldn't read too much into it.

03-22-2018 | 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Aero1900

Horizon tried to stop their bonus. Don't know if they were successful. Endeavor finally got rid of theirs. At my last regional, ALPA crunched the numbers and proved that a bonus was a waste of money. "Come work here! Get a bonus! Get a type rating! Leave in two years!" A gimmick. Management, however, will always believe that there will always be an endless supply of pilots willing to jump ship and sign on to the next, best bonus. In their minds, a bonus can always be taken away, but a raise is contractual.

03-23-2018 | 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey

If it was a private conversation, then you should not blab about it on a public forum.

Everyone would do well to keep quiet and let the negotiators do their jobs.

?? Not sure what you’re talking about. No private conversation. It’s from our NC update letter.