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04-18-2018, 06:32 AM

#1401

DrJekyll MrHyde

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Originally Posted by Missed Appch

I didn't seem to get the email regarding the hotels. What are the repercussions for ignoring/violating the contract for the past couple of years?

Essentially telling our pilots to “grieve it” one complaint at a time. Some months back the union published the “approved hotels list” and that lead to over 1,000 grievances by pilots for overnights in unapproved hotels, effectively doubling our active grievances. This is the reward of our union’s direction and the pilot group’s participation. Thanks to everyone that filed a grievance and to our union who juggled the massive uptick in grievances.

04-18-2018, 09:02 AM

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CrewRest

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I agree this is a great step forward, however it doesn't compensate us for the company's past actions. I thought the union was pressing for something like a 2 hr pay credit per pilot for each grievance? Seems like now there are no repercussions for the company's past actions. This new agreement is something that has always been part of our contract that the company just decided a couple years ago to ignore once Indigo bought us.

04-18-2018, 09:26 AM

#1403

V1 McFlyerson

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Originally Posted by CrewRest

Scratch, fight, claw for every scrap. Even the "victories" are somewhat hollowed due to the reason you mention. Can't wait to see the retro/bonus/LOA67. No penalties for the maliciousness towards this pilot group.

Notwithstanding, thank you Hotel Committee.

04-18-2018, 10:04 AM

#1404

afterburn81

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Speaking of email, interesting to see ALPA sending emails to potential candidates advising us of contractual issues that may not be so awesome.

Lowest narrow body pay
No hotels in training
Increasing reserve times in MCO and ORD

Nice way to put the pressure on management.

04-18-2018, 10:39 AM

#1405

Gary et al

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Originally Posted by CrewRest

I agree completely. It is absolutely an achievement that we should be happy about, however the company should have had to pay up as well. Why we are doing this during negotiations also seems like a strange strategy to me. Its clear we would have won this in arbitration, why not just TA this to be included in the contract and if we don't get a contract before arbitration tough luck to the company.

04-18-2018, 11:04 AM

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DrJekyll MrHyde

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Originally Posted by Gary et al

It is something that had to be fixed and we didn’t have to spend any negotiating capital inside of section 6 negotiations to secure it. I don’t think arbitration was going to secure a monetary payout for our pilots, only a ruling from the arbitrator that would dictate future management of pilot hotels; which is what we got and then some.

04-18-2018, 11:53 AM

#1407

Missed Appch

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Originally Posted by CrewRest

Agree as well.

Maybe it will be different future now, but I'm not optimistic. Their past behavior should be pretty telling.

04-18-2018, 03:04 PM

#1408

Escoed

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Any news from today's meetings?

04-18-2018, 03:08 PM

#1409

SFA320

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Originally Posted by Escoed

Any news from today's meetings?

Didn’t they schedule out the whole week “just in case”? If I remember right that was the guidance from the NMB.....so hopefully no news is good news. But I haven’t heard a thing.