Originally Posted by Blueskies67

I feel as a whole in the past we were a pretty unified group but maybe if there was an under average TA presented to us it would still pass. After reading that letter and talking to other guys here I feel a lot of our expectations just went up. What would’ve passed 6 months ago won’t cut it any more. When you read what our ceo really thinks of us and demands we don’t deserve to get paid more than spirit actually less but fills his pocket, it really ****ed a lot of us off even more. It’s plain and simple you are only worth what you negotiate, and I have no problem voting no as long as I need to, to wait for a contract I feel is fair and something I will be happy living under for the next 7 years. It’s about respect now, retro will take care of the rest.

Originally Posted by 303flyboy

Gross Bro. Gross.

Originally Posted by motorboatin

You obviously don’t understand the process. Your comment that “The NMB screwed us” screams emotionalism and lack of knowledge. I understand that we’d all like this over and done but being petulant and excitable will not help the situation. Will the NMB offer binding arbitration? Who knows, but prior to that, there are lots of internal checks that they must perform. Most important is enlisting the DOT in an impact study which shows the ACTUAL ramifications of a potential temporary shut-down. That in itself will invalidate a large chunk of the Co’s assertion that they’re as relevant as they think. But until then, just chill people. It’s out of our union’s hands, it’s out of our hands, and it’s definitely out of the Co’s hands. We have a tremendous amount of support that’s been given to us by the NMB. If you think otherwise, look at our track record with them. Mediation after six months of bullish!t bargaining, countless mandated sessions to reach agreements, new board members that immediately engaged us and now sit in on all sessions, etc. This stuff doesn’t happen overnight and acting like a bunch of spoiled pu$$y millenials does no good. Let the system work. It’s been proven, time and time again, that it does.

Originally Posted by ReserveCA

Hey biffster....
I could do YOUR job TOMORROW.....
could you do MINE?
Where is my 7 figure salary?

Originally Posted by PowerMan

I like this post. Accurate and entertaining!

I’d like to add my $.02 to the NMB conspiracy theories.

There is no reason for them to give favor to Indigo group. I’ve heard all the “BB is golfing buddies with Trump” nonsense lately. It’s BS. Frontier is a competitor to the likes of Spirit, JetBlue, SW, and even the legacies with regards to the Basic Economy market share. Those are real heavy hitters when it comes to political connections. They know Indigo has an unfair advantage right now with respect to its labor costs. The ULCC/Basic Economy market is still in its infancy here in the US. It’s a critical time for market share competition and those power players would like to see a level playing field. It’s not right now. There is no way Indigo has the type of influence required to override the interests of those we compete with.

Originally Posted by dracir1

BTW: seems like JB expects bullet points of their AIP as early as tomorrow...

Originally Posted by motorboatin

Bullish!t I’ll bet you money that you won’t see a thing until you see the full language. Those guys aren’t going back on their word. And it’s gonna take a couple/three weeks.