Frontier Negotiations Discussion
05-17-2018, 11:50 AM
#1703
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Posts: 514
Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey
Our ask was given a long time ago. The company has drug this out so long that our original ask is no longer valid or enough.
Our ask should not have been a number, but rather a formula based on the average of our peer airlines. That way, our ask would be moving up as our peers inked new agreements. This would have penalized our management's delay tactics.
I'm telling my reps that "Last to last is not good enough!!"
Let me repeat that.
"Last to last is not good enough!!"
Our ask should not have been a number, but rather a formula based on the average of our peer airlines. That way, our ask would be moving up as our peers inked new agreements. This would have penalized our management's delay tactics.
I'm telling my reps that "Last to last is not good enough!!"
Let me repeat that.
"Last to last is not good enough!!"
05-17-2018, 12:35 PM
#1704
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Posts: 550
Call your reps. The MEC agrees our ask is too low, and they have the same sentiments as all of us.
Our worst case scenario at this point is the company going into the next meeting giving us 100% of our ask with a $150,000,000 ratification bonus. Short of that, we sit back and cross our arms.
Our worst case scenario at this point is the company going into the next meeting giving us 100% of our ask with a $150,000,000 ratification bonus. Short of that, we sit back and cross our arms.
05-17-2018, 12:58 PM
#1705
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
Call your reps. The MEC agrees our ask is too low, and they have the same sentiments as all of us...
And for Dear little, sweet, 8-pound, 6-ounce, newborn infant jesus' sake don't negotiate in public.
Last edited by I like BIG Bus; 05-17-2018 at 01:11 PM.
05-17-2018, 01:19 PM
#1706
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Originally Posted by RustyChain
I think/hope the strategy is to sit tight with our ask and wait to get released asap. Any change in ask could delay that. Once we have leverage we can up the ask because they all know that they need it to pass a vote.
The worst thing the company could do now is give us our ask, then we would have no recourse if we turn it down.
The worst thing the company could do now is give us our ask, then we would have no recourse if we turn it down.
Spot On.
05-17-2018, 01:48 PM
#1707
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Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: El Capitan de Airbii
Posts: 277
Originally Posted by RustyChain
I think/hope the strategy is to sit tight with our ask and wait to get released asap. Any change in ask could delay that. Once we have leverage we can up the ask because they all know that they need it to pass a vote.
The worst thing the company could do now is give us our ask, then we would have no recourse if we turn it down.
The worst thing the company could do now is give us our ask, then we would have no recourse if we turn it down.
I would argue that there will be recourse. The NMB should see how outdated our ask is, and regardless, a last-to-last contract vote down and subsequent possible time gap will only worsen hiring and retention problems.
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05-17-2018, 03:40 PM
#1709
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 298
Good god! The buyers remorse on the spirit threads is palpable. They are hopeful the company will realize its going to be impossible to staff the airline and they just got a new contract. Look at what's happened since then. Omni, Kalitta, Jet blue! 265 is the new 245. Suck on it Biffy!! FUPM... when the NMB shows Buffalo and Frankenoldfuch the respect they've shown the board, I hope there's enough ink in the pen to write all those zeros!!!
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