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12-05-2018, 01:59 PM

#3961

TurboFanMan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trowserchilli

You left out international pay, and 321 over ride.
14hr long call reserve and 3hr short call reserve.

Which Spirit actually has.

I wish we had 3hr short call.

12-05-2018, 03:34 PM

#3962

ReserveCA

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When do we get the webinar info........ not till is starts?

12-05-2018, 03:35 PM

#3963

ReserveCA

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I do have a “few” questions....

12-05-2018, 04:08 PM

#3964

dracir1

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TA vote by MEC approved 6-0.

Webinar at 4p EST. See email for details.

12-05-2018, 04:10 PM

#3965

RickGassko

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Originally Posted by dracir1

TA vote approved 6-0.

Breaking news on APC goes faster that trying to answer load requests on StaffTraveler

12-05-2018, 05:05 PM

#3966

AncientAliens

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Well at least we can finally debate the merits of this TA in its entirety. Gonna be a long month.

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12-05-2018, 05:58 PM

#3967

CGLimits

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboFanMan

I wish we had 3hr short call.

I think Spirit’s is 3 hour before departure time, which is what we have, expressed differently.
Also, I believe their international override applies only for certain flying in South America. I don’t think they have an override for just flying to Cancun.

12-05-2018, 05:58 PM

#3968

Nacho Libre

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well 4pm tomorrow guys

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12-05-2018, 06:02 PM

#3969

V1 McFlyerson

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Quote:

We are proud of this TA and pleased to present it to you for our collective discussion, consideration and decision. The TA provides market-rate compensation, both in the form of rates as well as premium pay and other compensation elements. Several of the provisions are unique among ALPA carriers and many are industry-leading. We look forward to sharing the full details of the agreement and hearing your perspectives, both at tomorrow's webinar and the roadshows.

Surely these guys aren't -really- proud of this p.o.s. re-tread of NK's year-old TA, right? I guess these cronies are really going to double-down and claim these rates are market-rate? I think they need to lay off of Denver's finest. This is even more disheartening to read. It's like telling me to vote yes that the sky is neon pink.

Everyone preaches about looking at the TA as a whole. Well, it's obvious. Your union is bringing forward a TA that sold out rates, overrides, insurance/LTD, real QOL provisions, retirement, and even per diem ffs, so that you can continue to work on days off in order to earn what other narrowbody domestic pilots make.

I hope Spirit happens and we end up with their contract instead of this thing.