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Old 12-07-2018, 11:11 AM
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This is another good one.

It's only $900 out of your pocket each year and $4500 for the life of the contract is what was eluded. My question is if it is so little, why does it always have to come at the cost of the pilot group and not the company?
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackhawkIP View Post
This is another good one.

It's only $900 out of your pocket each year and $4500 for the life of the contract is what was eluded. My question is if it is so little, why does it always have to come at the cost of the pilot group and not the company?
That was a huge gift to the company. Saves them millions upon millions.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackhawkIP View Post
This is another good one.

It's only $900 out of your pocket each year and $4500 for the life of the contract is what was eluded. My question is if it is so little, why does it always have to come at the cost of the pilot group and not the company?
Exactly. Why, if it’s insignificant or no big deal, can’t we be 50¢ over industry average instead of 50¢ under?

Why am I supposed to be doing somersaults over a 1% increase in Company 401k contributions that equates to $185/month and I’m supposed to consider $150 per month shorted per diem as “insignificant?”
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:55 AM
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I can’t believe the union glorified the groups average credit of 93 hrs.

Surely they realize that we only work that much because our rates are so low. Not many of us want to keep working this hard.

I was really hoping to find enough improvements in this contract to garner a passing vote. I was looking for something to justify the rock bottom wages in the TA. I just can’t seem to find it.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:06 PM
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Exactly. Why, if it’s insignificant or no big deal, can’t we be 50¢ over industry average instead of 50¢ under?

Why am I supposed to be doing somersaults over a 1% increase in Company 401k contributions that equates to $185/month and I’m supposed to consider $150 per month shorted per diem as “insignificant?”
But it's justified because it was negotiated as a package with other items.
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Old 12-07-2018, 05:01 PM
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Wooow this TA is embarrassing to the industry. Is the NC content with acting like a women checking herself into a battered women’s shelter. Are they that beaten up to settle for this? It’s literally industry bottom in every area. I hope the group stands up so they don’t have to be I’m arrested showing up to work among their peers in the terminal.
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Yep. So much for pattern bargaining....
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Old 12-07-2018, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackhawkIP View Post
This is another good one.

It's only $900 out of your pocket each year and $4500 for the life of the contract is what was eluded. My question is if it is so little, why does it always have to come at the cost of the pilot group and not the company?
Even Spirit is $2.25 for DOS per diem.
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch View Post
Yep. So much for pattern bargaining....
I’m very disappointed with Bruce York.
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Old 12-07-2018, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay View Post
Wooow this TA is embarrassing to the industry. Is the NC content with acting like a women checking herself into a battered women’s shelter. Are they that beaten up to settle for this? It’s literally industry bottom in every area. I hope the group stands up so they don’t have to be I’m arrested showing up to work among their peers in the terminal.
I think the personal insults are unnecessary, if you thought you could have done better I guess you should have gotten involved early instead of whining after the fact. I’m supremely disappointed with some parts of this contract, important parts like payrates, retirement and reassignment language. But resorting to personal insults is below the belt.
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