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#63
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 497
Interesting.. when you pick up every vja in sight. The company "go to." Even under cutting your colleagues. And it's not a new thing. Not only out of DEN but now you commute all over to MCO and ORD to under cut those pilots too. Nice work!
I will second whoever said that if you have all that free time to vja in DEN and the other two bases, maybe help out the cause and do something for the union. I guarantee they need the help.
Wow.....
PS...I am for certain that a boat in Florida doesn't constitute a family crisis.
I will second whoever said that if you have all that free time to vja in DEN and the other two bases, maybe help out the cause and do something for the union. I guarantee they need the help.
Wow.....
PS...I am for certain that a boat in Florida doesn't constitute a family crisis.
That's funny. Fort Myers I'm guessing?
#64
Using Latin in normal conversation....
.All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives. The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are.
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#65
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Joined APC: May 2008
Posts: 879
Interesting.. when you pick up every vja in sight. The company "go to." Even under cutting your colleagues. And it's not a new thing. Not only out of DEN but now you commute all over to MCO and ORD to under cut those pilots too. Nice work!
I will second whoever said that if you have all that free time to vja in DEN and the other two bases, maybe help out the cause and do something for the union. I guarantee they need the help.
Wow.....
PS...I am for certain that a boat in Florida doesn't constitute a family crisis.
I will second whoever said that if you have all that free time to vja in DEN and the other two bases, maybe help out the cause and do something for the union. I guarantee they need the help.
Wow.....
PS...I am for certain that a boat in Florida doesn't constitute a family crisis.
I was at MCO airport heading to Denver when they called for the ONE MCO trip. Otherwise, I've done one VJA out of ORD, one JA out of Denver, and 3 incentivized trips in the last 6 months. "All that time" amounted to 63 hours credit in March. Don't overstate things in an effort to make your case.
I've put in 18 months doing ALPA work, albeit at another airline. How about you? Hopefully no hypocrisy there too.
As for family crisis, you evidently don't have a clue about that. This is just a guess, but I suspect that horses are a much more expensive hobby than a boat.
#66
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Joined APC: May 2008
Posts: 879
.All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives. The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are.
#67
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Joined APC: May 2008
Posts: 879
I will back up MikeHoncho with FaultPush. FaultPush will undercut anybody for an extra dime. How is that family crisis coming with that nice sailboat of yours? Why don't you do something for your pilot group(union) for once. Snagging every trip from other bases consistently is your new motto. At least you did show up for the picket event. I was surprised you didn't pick up that VJA in MCO the day of the picket!
I'd also appreciate a little honesty from you in your statements (or was that just hyperbole?). A reader might think you're stating facts - for that, see #65 above.
#69
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Airbus F/O
Posts: 333
Don't go down the road some of the Spirit pilots used. Look what happened to Spirit. We don't want to give ammo to indigo. If you have a problem with someone PM them, but please keep it out of the public eye.
#70
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: Done with that
Posts: 191
I think you guys are fighting the wrong battle. Don't fight Frontier. You cannot win against the RLA. So don't play that rigged game. Instead what do you think would happen if something threatened Indigo's IPO? That is what they are. IPO salesmen. That is where the big money is. They bought you for 100 million and have made enough to pay that back. Now they want that 1-1.5 billion paycheck.
So how to play. What would happen if the news got out that Frontier pilots were so upset with Indigo that a large majority planned a mass resignation a week or two after the IPO launch? That threat alone could kill their IPO plan. Who would invest in a airline without enough pilots to fly the routes? The sweet part is Indigo is NOT under RLA. You are not threatening a job action against Frontier. A fine legal point that. ALPA won't play along. That would negate their reason to exist. But bet your bottom dollar Indigo would shatter their pants thinking a group of dumb pilots beat their plans and their egos. They have spent a long time setting this up. You have the power to sink those plans. I would suspect you would get a contract PDQ. You just have to get enough pilots to make the threat realistic. Good luck on that. Too many sheep these days.
So how to play. What would happen if the news got out that Frontier pilots were so upset with Indigo that a large majority planned a mass resignation a week or two after the IPO launch? That threat alone could kill their IPO plan. Who would invest in a airline without enough pilots to fly the routes? The sweet part is Indigo is NOT under RLA. You are not threatening a job action against Frontier. A fine legal point that. ALPA won't play along. That would negate their reason to exist. But bet your bottom dollar Indigo would shatter their pants thinking a group of dumb pilots beat their plans and their egos. They have spent a long time setting this up. You have the power to sink those plans. I would suspect you would get a contract PDQ. You just have to get enough pilots to make the threat realistic. Good luck on that. Too many sheep these days.
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