Probationary Pilots Fired???
07-15-2018 | 06:19 PM
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Actually they did it specifically so we would try something like a sick out so they could then slap us with a TRO but we see through their games. The only people that risk having their careers destroyed are the new hires they are actively trying to recruit that don’t have union protection.
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
07-15-2018 | 08:28 PM
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In this country that we currently live in, if an employee is covered by FMLA, employer disciplinary actions are pretty unwelcome within our legal system. What the union should be doing is briefing everyone on this.
I could be wrong but, probationary or not, FMLA protects you at F9 right?
I could be wrong but, probationary or not, FMLA protects you at F9 right?
07-15-2018 | 08:29 PM
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I concur. Even in other sectors where all employment is at will, it is illegal for dismissal solely based on calling in sick.
Not getting a doctor’s note if required, not calling in, calling in sick when someone found you were out on your boat having fun, coordinated sick outs, excessive sick leave abuse/use. All those are legitimate reasons for dismissal.
There are employer that fire employees for sick leave within guidelines. There are plenty of court cases that require reinstatement of those employees with back pay.
Not getting a doctor’s note if required, not calling in, calling in sick when someone found you were out on your boat having fun, coordinated sick outs, excessive sick leave abuse/use. All those are legitimate reasons for dismissal.
There are employer that fire employees for sick leave within guidelines. There are plenty of court cases that require reinstatement of those employees with back pay.
07-15-2018 | 08:36 PM
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I concur. Even in other sectors where all employment is at will, it is illegal for dismissal solely based on calling in sick.
Not getting a doctor’s note if required, not calling in, calling in sick when someone found you were out on your boat having fun, coordinated sick outs, excessive sick leave abuse/use. All those are legitimate reasons for dismissal.
There are employer that fire employees for sick leave within guidelines. There are plenty of court cases that require reinstatement of those employees with back pay.
Not getting a doctor’s note if required, not calling in, calling in sick when someone found you were out on your boat having fun, coordinated sick outs, excessive sick leave abuse/use. All those are legitimate reasons for dismissal.
There are employer that fire employees for sick leave within guidelines. There are plenty of court cases that require reinstatement of those employees with back pay.
07-16-2018 | 06:02 AM
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Not to mention that a bunch of letters were sent out to non probationary pilots for having accumulated 20 sick days in 12 months. There is nothing in our contract that puts a cap on how many sick days we can take in a year.
I hope everyone that received this letter and the probationary pilots all get the FAA involved because ALPA has done nothing to push back against the company except saying they are aware of things and are looking at every angle!
I hope everyone that received this letter and the probationary pilots all get the FAA involved because ALPA has done nothing to push back against the company except saying they are aware of things and are looking at every angle!
07-16-2018 | 06:32 AM
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The company can do whatever they want whether it’s legal or not there is just ramifications for their actions. They couldn’t care less if it comes back on them later because they got to stick it to the pilots now. It crazy working for a company knowing management despises you but also needs you to run their airline. Apps updated a contract can’t fix culture.
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