I’ve Already Decided
11-05-2018 | 10:46 AM
#94
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Well thanks for being our cheerleader but we don’t have a contract signed in ink. Until then put your Pom poms down. It’s just hurts our cause. We have a couple thousand pilots to hire still if plane orders show up as advertised. Unity is key and has been for 2.5 yrs... but now a few bread crumbs have been dropped on the floor by us and people lose their self worth in a heartbeat... I truly hope this TA is freaking awesome but I’m severely skeptical at this point. Pom poms down until we see what we’ve got. Thanks
11-05-2018 | 11:57 AM
#95
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Original Ask on Pay Rates (actually lower)
$238.00 Jan 1 with $245.00 in March 2019
TA'ed Per Diem Rates
12% Direct Contribution scaling to 15% in term of contract.
PBS (Union controls Pairings)
Work Rules similar, slight decrease
$75M Ratification Bonus
Approx. $50-$65K Captain (after tax)
Approx. $22-$37K First Officer (after tax)
LTD $8000 Max Benefit (Optional Imputed Tax)
This is a slap in the face. This is a 3rd rate proposal and one only needs to look at your LEC Reps should they vote on sending it to the pilots. Don't sell you or your fellow pilots short. Hold the line.
Sad.
$238.00 Jan 1 with $245.00 in March 2019
TA'ed Per Diem Rates
12% Direct Contribution scaling to 15% in term of contract.
PBS (Union controls Pairings)
Work Rules similar, slight decrease
$75M Ratification Bonus
Approx. $50-$65K Captain (after tax)
Approx. $22-$37K First Officer (after tax)
LTD $8000 Max Benefit (Optional Imputed Tax)
This is a slap in the face. This is a 3rd rate proposal and one only needs to look at your LEC Reps should they vote on sending it to the pilots. Don't sell you or your fellow pilots short. Hold the line.
Sad.
If the info you provided is accurate I would hope at least 51% of us are a no. I know that what you have listed is not enough for me, and those number would make me 99% sure that I would be voting no. Only certain amazing work rules could persuade me otherwise, and I'm 99% sure we won't be getting 6 hour min calendar day with vacation added after bidding and keeping slide, red eye/intl/ and 321 override...etc etc.
I'm not disappointed, it just means the process hopefully continues and we do better next time.
11-05-2018 | 03:56 PM
#96
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There is no reason to prepare to be disappointed. Don't prepare to be anything. Wait and see what they send us, then make a decision.
If the info you provided is accurate I would hope at least 51% of us are a no. I know that what you have listed is not enough for me, and those number would make me 99% sure that I would be voting no. Only certain amazing work rules could persuade me otherwise, and I'm 99% sure we won't be getting 6 hour min calendar day with vacation added after bidding and keeping slide, red eye/intl/ and 321 override...etc etc.
I'm not disappointed, it just means the process hopefully continues and we do better next time.
If the info you provided is accurate I would hope at least 51% of us are a no. I know that what you have listed is not enough for me, and those number would make me 99% sure that I would be voting no. Only certain amazing work rules could persuade me otherwise, and I'm 99% sure we won't be getting 6 hour min calendar day with vacation added after bidding and keeping slide, red eye/intl/ and 321 override...etc etc.
I'm not disappointed, it just means the process hopefully continues and we do better next time.
11-06-2018 | 05:38 AM
#97
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Joined: Jul 2018
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The October class got less than half to show up. Hence the company came to the table.
Biffle went to the last round of interviews and told all the applicants that they would get a deal by the end of October and supposedly that filled the November class. I believe that class starts today.
Biffle went to the last round of interviews and told all the applicants that they would get a deal by the end of October and supposedly that filled the November class. I believe that class starts today.
11-06-2018 | 06:03 AM
#98
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But yes, maybe they'll get one of those vfile $10 holiday food vouchers that the FAs steal.
11-06-2018 | 06:20 AM
#100
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Joined: Oct 2016
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There is no reason to prepare to be disappointed. Don't prepare to be anything. Wait and see what they send us, then make a decision.
If the info you provided is accurate I would hope at least 51% of us are a no. I know that what you have listed is not enough for me, and those number would make me 99% sure that I would be voting no. Only certain amazing work rules could persuade me otherwise, and I'm 99% sure we won't be getting 6 hour min calendar day with vacation added after bidding and keeping slide, red eye/intl/ and 321 override...etc etc.
I'm not disappointed, it just means the process hopefully continues and we do better next time.
If the info you provided is accurate I would hope at least 51% of us are a no. I know that what you have listed is not enough for me, and those number would make me 99% sure that I would be voting no. Only certain amazing work rules could persuade me otherwise, and I'm 99% sure we won't be getting 6 hour min calendar day with vacation added after bidding and keeping slide, red eye/intl/ and 321 override...etc etc.
I'm not disappointed, it just means the process hopefully continues and we do better next time.
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