I just can't follow this line of thinking... I'm only hopeful that logical thinking will drive the rest of the pilot group who cares about their careers and the rest of their pilot brethren...

 

Agreed... I'm not saying I'll vote Yes on a crap deal, but if it's reasonable and "brings us into the pattern", what makes anyone think this egotistical management will give any more? If anything they will beat us down further, and do it out of sheer spite...

Also anyone who thinks the operation is near a breaking point or they won't continue to find other means to mitigate the lack of pilots showing up is crazy.

I'm just saying we owe it to ourselves and our co workers to give this an honest look.

 

Omfg...I honestly think we’ve hit a new all time low in the ignorant post category!

 

Annnnd just like that, I stand corrected!!!

 

Basically after being bent over for twelve + years and being subject to the indigo mgmnt groups greed and folly there is no way they would agree to contract terms that would be acceptable to me personally. .......
It's just me

 

Hahahahhaaaa, this is pure comedy brilliance!!

 

Don't kid yourself boat....there are more than enough voters to take the $ and run....

 

I vividly remember the APLA MEC members telling us in ground school that they wouldn’t accept anything less than industry standard and that PBS was off the table. If the numbers were seeing/hearing are correct, it’s well below industry standard and they agreed to PBS.

Not exactly encouraging.

 

My airline is in negotiations. If we get to vote, and our new contract doesn't have the minimum things I want in it, I will vote no. The chances I will vote no are almost 100%, because the contract will probably not have the minimum items I want in it.

We have Line Bidding now. It takes a long time to bid, and it is hard to get the days off I want. We had PBS: It was easy to get the days off I wanted, and it took very little time to bid.

There is a massive Pilot Shortage now, that is getting worse. The Pilot Shortage is making it more and more difficult for HR to fill classes across the industry.

Generally, if you sign a substandard contract, mgmt will be forced to come back to fix it relatively soon, as the pilot manning will deteriorate. If you wait for a better contract, the longer you wait, the better terms and conditions you will get, as the pilot manning situation deteriorates. Bottom line: Either way could be better, so it's hard to say which option is better in the long run.

 

I think you missed the sarcasm from my previous post which makes it even better!!!