Laughable Bravado
11-17-2018, 05:43 AM
#141
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Originally Posted by SFA320
From what I’ve been told they didn’t “cave”. They pushed the company and NMB as far as they would go. This was the 4th and best offer from the company. They tried to get all they could. I’ve also been told that the language will be rock solid, especially with PBS. Again time will tell.
11-17-2018, 05:50 AM
#143
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA
Classes were not being filled, we finally had some leverage, they NEEDED this....IE: CAVE
11-17-2018, 05:56 AM
#144
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Originally Posted by Ohreallynow
Classes weren't. But did they cancel flights over that? Did the guy ALL vacations? Run high credit lines? Etc. They could have strung it out. Offer above 6 hours credit to get stuff covered. Etc. Me thinks the only reason they came is something else happening.
Doesn't your last sentence still... equal leverage?
11-17-2018, 06:00 AM
#145
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA
Classes were not being filled, we finally had some leverage, they NEEDED this....IE: CAVE
You, ReserveCA, wouldn’t know a good deal if it sat on your face.
11-17-2018, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson
Your post insinuates to me that you're saying we didn't have leverage because of the things you mention.
Doesn't your last sentence still... equal leverage?
Doesn't your last sentence still... equal leverage?
11-17-2018, 06:45 AM
#147
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Originally Posted by motorboatin
“Finally had some leverage” you say?? Well no $hit Sherlock. And don’t you think that’s why they finally came to an agreement? They’ve sent back and said NO to countless crap proposals from the company over the past several years. They didn’t just get ONE as you might like to imply, and take it. They saw an opportunity to make great improvements and they solidified a deal. The way a reasonable and informed crowd understands this, is that the Company finally caved. If you recall, not too long ago, the Co was proposing a “flown” and “non-flown” pay scale that would have put the average hourly rate in the $175/hour range, with a literal gutting of work rules. So from there to where we ended up, I’d say is substantial. But to say the union caved is downright stupid. The Co finally needed to get something done and our union took the opportunity and made it happen.
You, ReserveCA, wouldn’t know a good deal if it sat on your face.
You, ReserveCA, wouldn’t know a good deal if it sat on your face.
The fact that you'll even refer to those company offers says all you need to say. The union MEC is going to cave if they vote this in.
All that happened was NK's year-old contract, post-Jetblue, reconfigured so we can continue in fine frontier fashion, working over vacations and hitting 82, pimping ourselves out so we can capitalize on our crap pay scale.
11-17-2018, 06:56 AM
#148
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Originally Posted by motorboatin
“Finally had some leverage” you say?? Well no $hit Sherlock. And don’t you think that’s why they finally came to an agreement? They’ve sent back and said NO to countless crap proposals from the company over the past several years. They didn’t just get ONE as you might like to imply, and take it. They saw an opportunity to make great improvements and they solidified a deal. The way a reasonable and informed crowd understands this, is that the Company finally caved. If you recall, not too long ago, the Co was proposing a “flown” and “non-flown” pay scale that would have put the average hourly rate in the $175/hour range, with a literal gutting of work rules. So from there to where we ended up, I’d say is substantial. But to say the union caved is downright stupid. The Co finally needed to get something done and our union took the opportunity and made it happen.
You, ReserveCA, wouldn’t know a good deal if it sat on your face.
You, ReserveCA, wouldn’t know a good deal if it sat on your face.
11-17-2018, 07:17 AM
#149
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Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson
The fact that you'll even refer to those company offers says all you need to say. The union MEC is going to cave if they vote this in.
All that happened was NK's year-old contract, post-Jetblue, reconfigured so we can continue in fine frontier fashion, working over vacations and hitting 82, pimping ourselves out so we can capitalize on our crap pay scale.
All that happened was NK's year-old contract, post-Jetblue, reconfigured so we can continue in fine frontier fashion, working over vacations and hitting 82, pimping ourselves out so we can capitalize on our crap pay scale.
