Originally Posted by DENpilot

Oh, please... you basically just said the same thing. "Mutually beneficial policies..." lol, aka you want a commuter to be pay protected when they fail to show. That is an entirely unreasonable expectation. No wonder some of you are so unhappy.

Originally Posted by Gary et al

Thanks Mr. Denver who has never commuted, lives in base, and doesn't care about how this airline has changed and now has about 50% of the pilots commuting. You obviously don't understand that when you follow the rules of commuter policy you will make your trip more than 99.9% of the time. I have always made my trips. Giving yourself 2 options with the 2nd option arriving 1hr prior to your show time...That is a more strict policy than ASA, a REGIONAL, for crying out loud. But it normally works.

Right now there is no requirement for a pilot to provide proof they followed the policy and gave two options. Proof is requested, but it is not contractually required. I am suggesting a give and take, we can make it a requirement but at the same time relieve much of the stress from commuters who are trying to follow the rules and make the trip. If a couple of trips can be protected over the course of a year it will make commuters happier pilots, it will also improve transparency with the pilots and the company. Right now, obviously most commuters would just call in sick...and because they'll call in sick they wont bother to follow the policy and probably only have 1 option that gets them in minutes before show, thus increasing sick calls and increasing use of reserve. Maybe before you spout off your mouth you should try to understand the entire problem cycle. This is beneficial for both company and pilot. Having the company pay protect a pilot who misses a trip probably only once every couple years but always does the right thing and plays by the rules, yeah I guess thats really greedy

And for what it's worth, I will be moving to base, I will not be commuting long term. But as somebody who has done it for a long time, I actually understand the stress it puts on pilots and would like for those who continue to choose to commute to have a little better QOL.

Originally Posted by butthert

I will pass.. Not really looking to put money towards people not working. I would rather have 321 or red eye over ride pay.

Originally Posted by Flipadelphia

If you’re only going try to belittle the other side of things and scream your side with your fingers in your ears you will continue to embarrass yourself.

Originally Posted by ToddChavez

Well if that's so, why don't we demand 300/hr, paid commuter drops, 20% DC contributions, free health care, and so on??? They need us more than we need them, right?

Originally Posted by ReserveCA

YES they DO......
But there are too many pups that don’t have the marbles to go the distance.

Originally Posted by Ohreallynow

*Yawn* the "zinger" of saying no balls is old. And really really ineffective. The time for balls has past. That was this summer. Now we have a AIP. Get educated and make the best decision for you.

Originally Posted by ReserveCA

After giving (or being pillaged from) for so long....
Hmm let's see should I accept the bottom basement offer.......

Originally Posted by ToddChavez

Now see, that's funny... The exact same thing could be said about you. All you no voters on here plugging your ears and screaming how we have all the leverage. Well if that's so, why don't we demand 300/hr, paid commuter drops, 20% DC contributions, free health care, and so on??? They need us more than we need them, right?

Originally Posted by ReserveCA

After giving (or being pillaged from) for so long....
Hmm let's see should I accept the bottom basement offer.......