So I noticed from the "what if award" -quite a few VL1 captains (guys on the 6 month cola) are getting Involuntary displaced back to FO, Myself included . How would that work out if I retrain as an FO and then 3 months later I bid CA when I can hold my base again as Captain? Would I need to do the entire upgrade again ?

 

No, you would just need to requal as a Captain. I.e Left seat PC and probably a line check.

 

Good thing their hiring lots of check airmen............seems like their setting them selves up for lots of retraining down grade upgrade events......

 

Thanks. will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Been on reserve in base since I upgraded and made a lot of money but last few months before covid I was also working almost every reserve period. May be nice to have 20 days off and fly in the sunlight as a senior FO.

 

Is there truly any merit to what I keep hearing about hiring in 2021? I just don’t see how that’s possible given the current climate.

 

We are almost for sure going to hire in 2021. Probably not too much, but aircraft delivery continues

 

i heard a rumor that UAL pilots were notified today about hiring projections in 2021, can anyone verify?

 

Your management wants to hire into zero hour lines? Don't tell our management at Allegiant, they'll try to hire directly to furlough status, just to have pilots in their pocket.

 

You'd probably get more accurate verification of UAL hiring projections in the UAL forum.

 

Ramping up hiring and training takes quite a bit of forward planning. Training new hires from start date takes around 3 months. Add to that the application process, interviewing etc and you can easily need a 5-6 month lead time to get a pilot out on the line from the date you make the decision to start hiring. I think Frontier is eager to capture as much of the rebound in demand as it can as it happens. When we've experienced lulls in the pandemic, demand has picked up reasonably quickly. Now that we have multiple effective vaccines getting approved, demand will likely start to return. Even though this third wave of the pandemic in the US has been pretty brutal, we haven't experienced the same precipitous drop in demand as the first wave. Frontier's customer base has been historically more resilient and quicker to return to the skies after previous downturns. Frontier also has access to a large amount of cash that puts it in a relatively strong financial position. All the recent route announcements are clues that we are transitioning slowly back to growth mode. Put all that together and you can definitely see the rationale for planning hiring. That's not to say it will definitely happen. As management has mentioned over and over again, we're in new territory here, so while they have to plan for the future, those plans are subject to change.