Hiring / training
10-04-2021, 11:11 AM
#2031
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I think that we will no doubt have some struggles with hiring and staffing but the reality is that we don't need to hire in such massive numbers that it won't be possible.
Everyone always cries about our hiring numbers not being all that big, but when you add 10, 12, 14 airplanes a year, the hiring numbers just don't need to be that huge. We are still a small airline. There are still, and will continue to be, a pipeline of pilots. Flying schools and regionals are all flying planes and those pilots will make their way here. That plus ATP, ERAU, Purdue and I'm sure UND too will ensure we don't run out of pilots.
A bit of attrition won't derail us. Plus, the company can up first year pay to over $100/hr if they want. That'll fix just about any hiring problems
Everyone always cries about our hiring numbers not being all that big, but when you add 10, 12, 14 airplanes a year, the hiring numbers just don't need to be that huge. We are still a small airline. There are still, and will continue to be, a pipeline of pilots. Flying schools and regionals are all flying planes and those pilots will make their way here. That plus ATP, ERAU, Purdue and I'm sure UND too will ensure we don't run out of pilots.
A bit of attrition won't derail us. Plus, the company can up first year pay to over $100/hr if they want. That'll fix just about any hiring problems
Last edited by Aero1900; 10-04-2021 at 11:30 AM.
10-04-2021, 03:54 PM
#2033
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Originally Posted by JoeFever1
Along these same lines I’ve recently been wondering what percentage of FO’s stay in the right seat, for various reasons. If I had to take a guess it’s around 15%.
10-05-2021, 12:03 PM
#2034
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Originally Posted by JoeFever1
Along these same lines I’ve recently been wondering what percentage of FO’s stay in the right seat, for various reasons. If I had to take a guess it’s around 15%.
10-06-2021, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EAFF95
The most junior captain hovers around the 60% point for those who are wondering. IE: 10 percent bypass.
Generally speaking, CAs are more senior. This means they have more vacation time, and you need more of them to cover for that. CAs tend to be the pilots in the training dept, CAs tend to be pilots involved in management. CAs (and this is very general and doesn't totally apply to our airline) tend to be older and more subject to FMLA leaves. There are several individually small reasons that add up to why you need more CA than FO, I don't know what the number is, I just know that your method for figuring out the bypass is flawed.
10-06-2021, 07:17 PM
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Like Gary said above, seniority lists are weighted on the captain side. As a general rule, most airlines seem to run at around 55-60% captains. Right now we’re about 52% on the captain side. So we’re definitely a little short on captains, but that was already public knowledge. In any case, if the most junior captain is currently at 60%, that would leave it at around an 8% bypass. For what it’s worth, I took the upgrade in the not too distant past and most of my group was made up of people taking the first available. I think we all got comfy and confident in the future prior to covid. The covid situation seems to have shaken a lot of people out of their comfort tree and wanting to grab a captain seat when they could.
10-08-2021, 07:38 AM
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Any idea if there’s an average time after taking the outmatch assessment from hearing a yay or nay? I didn’t get any immediate emails afterwards with a tbnt so hoping no news is good news? 4 internals plus a golden eagle.
10-08-2021, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat
Any idea if there’s an average time after taking the outmatch assessment from hearing a yay or nay? I didn’t get any immediate emails afterwards with a tbnt so hoping no news is good news? 4 internals plus a golden eagle.
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10-08-2021, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat
Any idea if there’s an average time after taking the outmatch assessment from hearing a yay or nay? I didn’t get any immediate emails afterwards with a tbnt so hoping no news is good news? 4 internals plus a golden eagle.
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