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Old 08-05-2023, 03:44 PM
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Hey all, just wanted to double check dress code and grooming standards for ATP in Dallas. I understand polos/shirt, but as far as grooming goes, no beards right?
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Old 08-05-2023, 11:33 PM
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Hey all, just wanted to double check dress code and grooming standards for ATP in Dallas. I understand polos/shirt, but as far as grooming goes, no beards right?
A better question to ask yourself... As a professional pilot and new hire, how do I want to present myself?
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Old 08-06-2023, 08:27 AM
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Thanks for spoon feeding me, very much appreciated, I have dribbled some on my cheek mind cleaning that up too? Never saw the website as I am not on here all that much, can’t be bothered to go through hours of chat messages looking for something I didn’t know existed. Simple question I asked, you answered it in a passive aggressive manner so thanks for that!

Now, about that dribble!
A little bit of research goes a long way in finding a job in this racket.

If you're not willing to AT LEAST read a few pages of the hiring thread on APC before throwing in your app I fear this might not be for you.

Am I getting old? What's going on with the youths these days?

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Old 08-06-2023, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 View Post
A little bit of research goes a long way in finding a job in this racket.

If you're not willing to AT LEAST read a few pages of the hiring thread on APC before throwing in your app I fear this might not be for you.

Am I getting old? What's going on with the youths these days?


No you’re just correct. The current view of normal is vastly different than previous generations. You can’t blame them though since this is what we worked hard to achieve.
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Old 08-06-2023, 01:07 PM
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A better question to ask yourself... As a professional pilot and new hire, how do I want to present myself?
Fair enough, that’s what I was thinking as well. Thank you!
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Old 08-06-2023, 01:07 PM
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No you’re just correct. The current view of normal is vastly different than previous generations. You can’t blame them though since this is what we worked hard to achieve.
I have flown with this one new hire (23 yo cadet wonder). twice in the last month. He was late both times on the first trip of pairing. Texted me on crew view letting me know but jeez.
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Old 08-09-2023, 05:44 PM
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Hello all. I had some questions about the three weeks in Dallas (ATP/CTP, Type and F9 Flows). I wanted to make sure I got a head start on the material before I show up.

I've started on the online ground school that needs to be completed before we show up for ATP CTP. Also got Shepperd Air and am looking over the questions for the ATM post ATP CTP.

As far as the rest of the material sent (flows, limits, memory items etc.), how much of that should I memorize before showing up for the type rating and then the F9 specific training? I understand the law of primacy and I did not want to memorize anything incorrectly if it will be taught in class the correct way.

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Old 08-09-2023, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Im your PAPI View Post
Hello all. I had some questions about the three weeks in Dallas (ATP/CTP, Type and F9 Flows). I wanted to make sure I got a head start on the material before I show up.

I've started on the online ground school that needs to be completed before we show up for ATP CTP. Also got Shepperd Air and am looking over the questions for the ATM post ATP CTP.

As far as the rest of the material sent (flows, limits, memory items etc.), how much of that should I memorize before showing up for the type rating and then the F9 specific training? I understand the law of primacy and I did not want to memorize anything incorrectly if it will be taught in class the correct way.

Thank you
Unfortunately the law of primacy will be violated by going to do your type rating in Dallas then onto Frontier. You'll learn Airbus procedures in Dallas, then have to learn Frontier procedures when you get into class in DEN. There are differences, and some re-learning will be necessary.
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Old 08-09-2023, 06:51 PM
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Unfortunately the law of primacy will be violated by going to do your type rating in Dallas then onto Frontier. You'll learn Airbus procedures in Dallas, then have to learn Frontier procedures when you get into class in DEN. There are differences, and some re-learning will be necessary.
I thought the ATP Airbus class in Dallas used all of our training stuff? I could be wrong but I thought that they were trying to copy our program as closely as possible?
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Old 08-09-2023, 08:08 PM
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I thought the ATP Airbus class in Dallas used all of our training stuff? I could be wrong but I thought that they were trying to copy our program as closely as possible?

They give you F9 material from F9 but they don’t really follow that. That’s a “if you have time after the Dallas shenanigans” scenario. A few guys in the recent class went and it is different once you get to F9 from what I was told. I would not study the F9 material because it’ll get confusing trying to switch to what ATP wants you to do. After you check the box and pass the ride then I would hit it hard on the F9 material they send. If you do you will be far ahead of the game and feel a lot less stress trying to learn that while trying to learn everything else that is needed.
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