Yes. I had a friend interview in the last week or two. He is just missing the NK furlough and wanted to be proactive.

 

Sorry to hear. IF there is a chance you are not getting furloughed, I would try sticking NK out... You guys wont disappear, just get merged or bought. Major airlines don't go out of business anymore and leave pilots on the streets, especially with an all airbus fleet with 3k qualified pilots with the current boeing thing going on.

 

unless there’s some mass attrition in the next 50 days or so, looks like the F is inevitable

 

I don't know how "overstaffed" Spirit thinks they are on Captains, but based on my conversation with a couple of different folks that do pilot interviews at UA, it sounds like there are a great many Spirit Captains that are getting ready to leave. This may not be fast enough to help, but may mean that Spirit gets into a recall mode much sooner than they anticipated.

I know that UA is not looking at all folks with CJOs the same as they used to. Now, they are prioritizing the class dates for the off the street hires based on the company's overall assesment of the applicant based on their application and interview. This means that those that had a much high score on their application (experience) will likely be given a class date ahead of somebody who's score on the application was lower. Aviate/Flow and Military folks will still be given classes based on their availability based on the individual program's rules, but true off the street hires will not be first CJO means first class date. I am not sure how DL or AA are planning to handle this as their classes start back up, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did the same thing.

I know this is ****es folks off that got CJOs last Spring/Summer, but it will likely help a current 121 Captain with a bunch of 121 PIC and SIC time get a class date before somebody who has substantially less experience.

BTW, I will give a PSA based on the discussion I just had with one of our interview pilots. Just being a Captain does not give you a leg up on the interview, so please don't assume it does. He had a couple stories of folks taking the technical portion of the interview for granted and that didn't end well. The technical portion just uses a phase of flight discussion based on the information they send you in the interview packet, but when the applicant is not ready to discuss alternate requirements, fuel requirements, approach minimums, minimum fuel, emergency fuel, etc, it really leaves the interview pilot with no choice. Not stump the dummy type questions, but probably worth some review for those that haven't been in the interview environment for awhile.

 

That's something that I haven't thought about. If they go into the recall mode fairly quickly, do I stay or go? If I get recalled and get displaced out of base, my quality of life will drastically decrease and even on second year pay at NK, is it worth surviving the furlough? I would love to get on with F9 and stay in base and I think that would be a better choice.

 

You answered your own question. Besides, which is the higher risk situation? Best of luck, truly.

 

Aspiring to get to F9 after being at another major isn't a great plan...certainly would be my plan Z.

 

What are the chances someone can get hired with only an ATP written and no turbine time?

 

Right now, not likely, in the future when everyone else with turbine time and type ratings goes to a legacy and the applicant pool is just CFIs? Likely.

 

hate to say it, but that's never happening again. It's not gonna be 2000s-era stagnation but things are definitely going to be slow.