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11-06-2019 | 10:05 AM

#761

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Originally Posted by Aero1900

Someone should try to calculate master seniority list comparison for someone hired today at Frontier vs Delta over the next decade.

Based on our more than double growth but few retirement and delta retirements but little growth.

And then everyone could chime and and criticize your math. Any takers?

This is exactly what I am wanting to know. For me personally, I am more concerned about having a good quality of life then making money. It seems to me that if I were to choose Frontier over going to a legacy, even with the retirements, I'd hold a better schedule way faster and for longer then I would ever at a major. The legacy carriers have already hired thousands of pilots each over the past 5 years or so. Anyone hired from this point on will eventually stagnate somewhere around 50-60 percent and be lucky to retire in the top 30 percent. In my estimation. If you are hired between now and this time next year here, you would be top 50 in less then 5 years? Retire in top 20 assuming the pilot group doubles in size.

Anyone have a different opinion?

11-06-2019 | 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by too low gear

I think this is grossly oversimplified. Nobody can agree with this, or necessarily disagree with it. There are too many variables, not just with the different airlines and their futures, but with your age and where you want to live. The money you don't care about making can directly impact your QOL. More of it, less you have to leave your car parked at the employee lot. Benefits matter a lot, Retirement matters a lot. Being higher in relative seniority at F9 flying narrow bodies on 2.5 hour legs may not compare to all the choices you'll have on different aircraft doing different kinds of flying at a Legacy. You might be better off here in the long run, but you cannot know that now.

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11-08-2019 | 09:00 AM

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From: Part 91

Does anyone know if the training footprint has changed yet? There were rumors of new hires going home during training to complete CBTs.

11-08-2019 | 09:01 AM

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Does anyone know if the training footprint has changed yet? There were rumors of new hires going home during training to complete CBTs.

Not yet. But soon

11-08-2019 | 04:15 PM

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From: Part 91

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Not yet. But soon

Thanks. A couple weeks at home will certainly save a few dollars.

11-08-2019 | 05:48 PM

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Sounds like they are about to change the entire training footprint.

Mixing up FTDs and SIMs, more CBTs, etc. I'm not promising that there will be study at home, but that's what they made it sound like