Hiring / training
10-10-2019, 04:15 PM
#751
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Someone should try to calculate master seniority list comparison for someone hired today at Frontier vs Delta over the next decade.
Based on our more than double growth but few retirement and delta retirements but little growth.
And then everyone could chime and and criticize your math. Any takers?
Based on our more than double growth but few retirement and delta retirements but little growth.
And then everyone could chime and and criticize your math. Any takers?
If our pilot group doubles in size within 10 years, that’s about 7% of the top 700 pilots retiring mandatorily within that time frame.
Keep in mind, I just counted those senior to me
10-10-2019, 04:43 PM
#752
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Position: 1900D CA
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I'm thinking that in 2028 when we hit 214 airplanes we should have a seniority list of roughly 3200.
For someone hire today, I suspect that if all goes to plan you'll be solidly above the 50% mark here in 2028. I'm guessing that's roughly your best case scenario at UAL, DL, AA. Anyone that's already on the list here will probably have better seniority here then if they leave for a legacy.
For someone hire today, I suspect that if all goes to plan you'll be solidly above the 50% mark here in 2028. I'm guessing that's roughly your best case scenario at UAL, DL, AA. Anyone that's already on the list here will probably have better seniority here then if they leave for a legacy.
10-10-2019, 04:56 PM
#753
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I'm thinking that in 2028 when we hit 214 airplanes we should have a seniority list of roughly 3200.
For someone hire today, I suspect that if all goes to plan you'll be solidly above the 50% mark here in 2028. I'm guessing that's roughly your best case scenario at UAL, DL, AA. Anyone that's already on the list here will probably have better seniority here then if they leave for a legacy.
For someone hire today, I suspect that if all goes to plan you'll be solidly above the 50% mark here in 2028. I'm guessing that's roughly your best case scenario at UAL, DL, AA. Anyone that's already on the list here will probably have better seniority here then if they leave for a legacy.
10-11-2019, 10:39 AM
#754
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Originally Posted by Powderkeg
I’m pretty sure the forecast for deliveries goes through 2026 not ‘28. First order of 120 wraps up in 2021 then another 5 years to get next 134 more.
We have 96 as of today.
10-11-2019, 10:55 AM
#755
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Position: 1900D CA
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I think there might have been some delays. I recently saw the fleet plan documents and I'm pretty sure it showed deliveries thru 2028. Maybe those are the XLRs, i just don't know.
Either way, when we hit our fleet plan of 215 we should have about 3250 pilots or so. Currently we have about 1440 pilots, so I suspect we will hire 1900+ pilots between now and 2028 accounting for retirement and attrition. That's a manageable amount of hiring.
Either way, when we hit our fleet plan of 215 we should have about 3250 pilots or so. Currently we have about 1440 pilots, so I suspect we will hire 1900+ pilots between now and 2028 accounting for retirement and attrition. That's a manageable amount of hiring.
10-11-2019, 10:19 PM
#758
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Originally Posted by MysteriousMrX
If hired at F9.. (I know there’s a long wait time for class right now)
How long is reserve a and what base is junior?
I’m able to move to any base- wherever I can hold a line quickest would be nice.
How long is reserve a and what base is junior?
I’m able to move to any base- wherever I can hold a line quickest would be nice.
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