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covid19 02-11-2026 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 4002289)
Anyone know the 2026 aircraft delivery numbers?

How old is our oldest 320NEO? I think they were all on 12 year leases. I wonder how early these leases are being terminated?

Will we have a net gain or loss of aircraft this year?

I wonder if they are going to up the utilization on the existing fleet substantially.

Anyhow, great to see that we are at least making money again


The expanded earnings comments PDF posted on the investor relations page indicates we will end 2026 with the same number of planes as we ended 2025. 176 airframes.

westcoastj 02-11-2026 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by Nacho Libre (Post 4002295)
That’s my take as well. The reduction in flying gives F9 more runway to keep operating. They will shed the least profitable routes and probably cut costs further with some base reductions to drive reserve utilization higher and reduce the % of reserves system wide. If this occurs it would make sense to see fewer day turns.

we can do the same amount of block if not more with them cranking up utilization. This just sucks for any FO though. There’s very little point sticking around if upgrade is going to be slowed down drastically.

Aero1900 02-11-2026 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by covid19 (Post 4002298)
The expanded earnings comments PDF posted on the investor relations page indicates we will end 2026 with the same number of planes as we ended 2025. 176 airframes.

Just saw that, thanks.

Flat fleet size. So now the question is all about utilization.

RStrawberry 02-11-2026 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 4002281)
REALLY makes me wonder if there is a merger in our future....

not a chance.

Greendriver 02-11-2026 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by westcoastj (Post 4002302)
we can do the same amount of block if not more with them cranking up utilization. This just sucks for any FO though. There’s very little point sticking around if upgrade is going to be slowed down drastically.

I anticipate that this will likely significantly impede the pace of upgrades. Our hiring efforts will probably focus primarily on addressing attrition.

spooldup 02-11-2026 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by RStrawberry (Post 4002311)
This must all be unsettling for some FOs that had sights on upgrade. Pretty much seals the deal I made the right call to bounce.

Good luck.

Time for you to go grace the United forums with your posts.

DumboDrop 02-11-2026 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 4002303)
Just saw that, thanks.

Flat fleet size. So now the question is all about utilization.

They said growth going forward will be 10%/year.

I think we fly planes 8 hours a day. Line value is probably just over 5 hours and we probably average something like 4 hours per day with rsv coverage. We have plenty of room to fly more. They are focusing on better on time performance, so maybe they won't have to be as conservative with pairing construction.

ginntonic 02-11-2026 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by OnTilt (Post 4002278)
$53 million Q4 net income. Announced early return of 20+320NEO to right size the fleet. Deferrals of future deliveries for slower more steady growth.

I'm pleased to see a profit, but "other operating" expenses has a -$65M line item which helps the 4Q profit number. I'm guessing that's SLB related.

Also, CASM exceeded RASM which isn't ideal.

The company is praising the "more constructive supply-demand environment" (I think they're talking capacity?) so what happens if legacies add back?

Others mentioned utilization & I agree. We were down about 10% in '25. Definitely going to see some changes in block.

2026 will be interesting.

av8nallday 02-11-2026 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 4002289)
Anyone know the 2026 aircraft delivery numbers?

How old is our oldest 320NEO? I think they were all on 12 year leases. I wonder how early these leases are being terminated?

Will we have a net gain or loss of aircraft this year?

I wonder if they are going to up the utilization on the existing fleet substantially.

Anyhow, great to see that we are at least making money again



From JD “we are returning 320NEOs 24 of them” “average of returned 320’s is 6 years” so half the lease completed.” A deal was struck that we won’t be hit financially.

We are a net zero according to JD for deliveries. So we give 24 back and have 24 coming.

Utilization is going to go from 8-9 hours a day to 11.5 hours a day.


This place is a dumpster fire. Anyone with a lot of runway left in this career would be wise to bounce. Sounds like they are closing bases too because no one caught that the $200 million in savings they are claiming to be able to achieve is due to rent…. Aka bases not being bases. Godspeed fellas

LifetimeCFI 02-11-2026 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by av8nallday (Post 4002365)

This place is a dumpster fire. Anyone with a lot of runway left in this career would be wise to bounce.

You don't think we are desperately trying? Most FOs have their apps out, and have since day one. Unfortunately moving on is extremely difficult outside of random 2-3 month stretches where loads of people are getting in with the top jobs before that window abruptly closes. And us FOs who missed out are now without any realistic avenue to earning TPIC in the next 2 years. Bleak.

FYI - I think the "rent" mention was money saved on leases terminating but could be wrong.


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