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09-20-2023 | 10:49 AM
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09-20-2023 | 11:35 AM
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09-20-2023 | 11:47 AM
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09-20-2023 | 04:19 PM
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There's absolutely no reason ULCC can't be very successful. Been proven all over the world. But you have to actually run the place halfway well
09-20-2023 | 05:02 PM
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Airlines are either growing or shrinking - it's almost impossible to maintain status quo (replace retirement and attrition with just enough hiring). In actuality, we are the closest thing to that very thing (stagnation) right now and have seen what it can do (CAs leaving, mass turnover in FOs, dissatisfaction in many of the workgroups, etc.). So, why order a whole bunch of planes but then sh!t the bed on the rest of the growth plans...
Incompetence? Indifference? Even purposeful?
09-20-2023 | 07:03 PM
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Given the trueness of this statement, something doesn't add up. Why would BB, who KNOWS the model, do this poorly? How/why would he allow this to happen?
Airlines are either growing or shrinking - it's almost impossible to maintain status quo (replace retirement and attrition with just enough hiring). In actuality, we are the closest thing to that very thing (stagnation) right now and have seen what it can do (CAs leaving, mass turnover in FOs, dissatisfaction in many of the workgroups, etc.). So, why order a whole bunch of planes but then sh!t the bed on the rest of the growth plans...
Incompetence? Indifference? Even purposeful?
Airlines are either growing or shrinking - it's almost impossible to maintain status quo (replace retirement and attrition with just enough hiring). In actuality, we are the closest thing to that very thing (stagnation) right now and have seen what it can do (CAs leaving, mass turnover in FOs, dissatisfaction in many of the workgroups, etc.). So, why order a whole bunch of planes but then sh!t the bed on the rest of the growth plans...
Incompetence? Indifference? Even purposeful?
They are just too focused on the cost structure and let too many things fall below par. Running an airline is hard, and Biffle isn't the best so you get what we got. I think he's basically done just well enough to not get replaced.
Let's not forget though, the airline was decently profitable in the last quarter. $88 million in profits and over $700 million in the bank. Things aren't exactly a disaster here. And the airline has grown tremendously under Biffle.
09-20-2023 | 07:42 PM
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Incompetence. That's it.
They are just too focused on the cost structure and let too many things fall below par. Running an airline is hard, and Biffle isn't the best so you get what we got. I think he's basically done just well enough to not get replaced.
Let's not forget though, the airline was decently profitable in the last quarter. $88 million in profits and over $700 million in the bank. Things aren't exactly a disaster here. And the airline has grown tremendously under Biffle.
They are just too focused on the cost structure and let too many things fall below par. Running an airline is hard, and Biffle isn't the best so you get what we got. I think he's basically done just well enough to not get replaced.
Let's not forget though, the airline was decently profitable in the last quarter. $88 million in profits and over $700 million in the bank. Things aren't exactly a disaster here. And the airline has grown tremendously under Biffle.
09-20-2023 | 08:34 PM
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09-21-2023 | 03:17 AM
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Q3 is always rough though. It's the lowest travel demand of the year. Prior to Indigo owning Frontier, Frontier never once turned a profit in Q3.
We won't this year, that's for sure. But we did in Q2 and we will in Q4
09-21-2023 | 03:35 AM
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From: A320 FO
Incompetence. That's it.
They are just too focused on the cost structure and let too many things fall below par. Running an airline is hard, and Biffle isn't the best so you get what we got. I think he's basically done just well enough to not get replaced.
Let's not forget though, the airline was decently profitable in the last quarter. $88 million in profits and over $700 million in the bank. Things aren't exactly a disaster here. And the airline has grown tremendously under Biffle.
They are just too focused on the cost structure and let too many things fall below par. Running an airline is hard, and Biffle isn't the best so you get what we got. I think he's basically done just well enough to not get replaced.
Let's not forget though, the airline was decently profitable in the last quarter. $88 million in profits and over $700 million in the bank. Things aren't exactly a disaster here. And the airline has grown tremendously under Biffle.
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